Sometimes between shots...
Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks
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Sometimes between shots...
Beautiful! I love this livery.There's the Appalachia-class from Star Trek Online, which is a sort of post-Steamrunner using the same general arrangement... I'm not a massive fan of most STO designs but I like this one.
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They did that with the Enterprise in the reboot movies and everyone lost their minds
Nothing is perfect.They did that with the Enterprise in the reboot movies and everyone lost their minds
It's interesting that Mariner refers to the Sabrerunner class USS Passaro as an 'old tub.' Despite its registry (like all Steamrunners), it appears to be much newer than the California class. And even if the Steamrunner/Sabrerunner class was new as of ST:FC where it first appeared (2373), that's only 8 years before LDS. It shouldn't be that old.
Perhaps, in this case, it wasn’t so much about the years, but rather the mileage? The ship may have been rode hard and put away wet, with much of its systems barely able to function.
It's possible the writers were just thinking of the real world, where the Steamrunner design is currently twenty-seven years old rather than thinking in-universe where the design would be somewhat newer.
I know I certainly think of 1996 as being a way back when year. I was still in elementary school back then.
I know I certainly think of 1996 as being a way back when year. I was still in elementary school back then.
I think Mariner was just being hyperbolic since it doesn't seem to fly much like an old tub either, and it's at least new enough that it was around after Freeman made Captain to have her command codes.
Kinda a bummer there was no explanation of why it was there.
Why?
Because it was randomly put there for Mariner to find? Because it wasn’t painted like the other ships? Because we were told that no Starfleet ships were attacked, yet there it was? Because we didn’t see any abducted Starfleet officers from the Passaro on the planet with the other abducted ships’ crews, implying the Passaro had no crew?
Locarno stole it while its crew evacuated for a baryon sweep. Let it be canon from here on. I have spoken.
Yes it was. It was missing the burst emblem, but it had the red markings like all the other ships.
Then obviously it wasn't attacked and was stolen.
Not everything needs to be explained, use your imagination with the evidence on hand.
But that wasn't Locarno's modus operandi. Starfleet vessels were not being targeted, and there were no Starfleet officers abandoned on the planet. So where did this ship come from? You say it was stolen, but the previous information refutes that hypothesis.
If people are asking the question, then that’s the fault of the writers for not providing an adequate answer. Telling the audience to ‘use your imagination’ because you couldn’t be bothered to come up with an explanation yourself is a cop-out. The onus is on the writer, not the writer's audience.
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What always confused me was why, after the targeted ships were allegedly destroyed, we see massive amounts of debris floating around with species logos on them, consoles and other flotsam. Then, when Mariner finds Locarno’s fleet, there they all are, still intact and given a kind of war paint. Where did all the debris come from when they were all simply disabled and towed away?
Was it from other ships that were destroyed and then the debris jettisoned in their wake once they left the area? That opens up other problems about ship identification and how they would eventually be determined not to be the ships that were lost, but other unrelated ships from maybe a junkyard from Qualor II or something.
TNG and other 24th century shows demonstrated a high level of forensic analysis capability through simple metallurgical scans. I forget, did that bit of exposition ever get mentioned in dialogue by Locarno or anyone else?
Was it from other ships that were destroyed and then the debris jettisoned in their wake once they left the area? That opens up other problems about ship identification and how they would eventually be determined not to be the ships that were lost, but other unrelated ships from maybe a junkyard from Qualor II or something.
TNG and other 24th century shows demonstrated a high level of forensic analysis capability through simple metallurgical scans. I forget, did that bit of exposition ever get mentioned in dialogue by Locarno or anyone else?
Yes, but they beat it over the head all season that no Starfleet ships were lost. But lo, there’s the Passaro hanging around without any explanation. And I doubt a one sentence line about why it was there was cut for time. I think they just wanted to tribute Mr. Passaro and made a Starfleet ship named after him (which was a nice gesture in and of itself), but thought no further about it than that. Just my opinion.
There must be some in-universe explanation. Because in the VOY: "Think Tank" episode, there's massive fake debris of Voyager.
Forgot about that. Good point.
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