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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x08 - "Under the Cloak of War"

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Really mixed feelings about this one. Was it well acted and, for the most part, well directed? Yes. It was a relief to get something meaty and dramatic after last week’s frivolity, and Trek has always done quite well at dealing with such topics.

Alas, like so much of SNW, it feels like a blatant reuse of old Trek storylines and tropes: this was kind of a mixture of ST VI: TUC, The Defector, Duet, The Siege of AR558 mixed with Its Only a Paper Moon, and even The Wounded…and not a fraction as good as any of them.

I really enjoyed the Klingon Ambassador and thought he was well and charmingly played. For a few seconds, I thought it was Tony Todd—he has something of Todd’s beautifully rich, silken voice. Another great guest performance in a season that has boasted a fair few of them. Fascinatingly, nuanced character.

The ending, though. It felt vague and confusing to me. I need to rewatch it, I guess. whichever way you swing it, though, it’s highly highly problematic.

M’Benga committed murder and covers it up. So does Chapel. They stand there over the body without even trying to revive him. That, to me, is unforgivable for two medics.

If M’Benga has an ounce of integrity he’d confess to what he did and offer his resignation. If he really is that deeply damaged he shouldn’t be in a position of authority or perhaps even treating patients at all. Maybe it’s still to come, but I really hope there will be further fallout from this. It would be terrible if there’s no real resolution to this.

Also agree with the criticisms of Pike. I get that his style is extremely laid back but there’s laid back and there’s inept and clueless, which is basically what he was here.

I like TV that challenges you and makes you think. But this just doesn’t sit right with me at all. We’ve had other Trek main characters who have committed murder, but this just didn’t feel warranted and the lies that are then spouted leave an even more bitter taste in the mouth.

I guess it just didn’t help that I don’t feel invested in the characters. In spite of the powerful subject matter, I was never really moved at all. Other incarnations of Trek have brought me to tears, but I didn’t feel the level of emotion they were going for. The flashback scenes were well done initially, but they quickly got overdone and felt highly repetitive and therefore redundant.

Ultimately, the whole thing, despite some lovely performances and a fascinating guest character, just left a horrible taste in my mouth. I’m just hoping there are consequences down the line. And Ortegas—she really needs to be dragged down a peg or two. No other Trek captain would accept the constant insubordination and unprofessionalism. Really struggling with this character.
 
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Use bio bed 1? Or at least get out a frelling tricorder and do what they were trained to do.

agreed, there's biobed 1 and probably a few more, and a whole sickbay full of equipment and supplies. Chapel did manual stimulation on a guy's heart "a few years ago", I'm sure they COULD have done SOMETHING to treat the wound, but, they weren't about to do anything to help that cowardly murderer.
 
The only issue with this is that M’Benga is both a doctor and a skilled fighter, he should know how to incapacitate a Klingon without killing them. Moreover, they were already in sickbay, he had all the opportunities to try and save/revive the ambassador.
Also Worf in TNG season 1 points out that taking civilian hostages would be dishonourable.
And during DS9 season 4, when commenting on the fact that there could be Klingon ships cloaked and lying in wait for other Cardassian ships to pick up any survivors in a field of disabled and destroyed Cardassian vessels that may contain survivors, in response to:

Doctor Badhir: "Doesn't sound very honorable to me."

Worf: "In war there is nothing more honorable than victory."
 
I saw so many trigger warnings about this ep on social media and websites that I was kind of uhh.. what? about the level of violence and PTSD stuff. I think I was expecting it to be that Tarantino Trek we were rumoured to be getting.
 
There's no chance this is the last word on the incident. There will be consequences. M'Benga isn't seen in TOS until his intro in "A Private Little War" (how apt that title is now). Perhaps this is one reason he's not aboard. Even if he gets off easy, I can fully see him battling his own demons to live with this. I'm excited to see what they do with it.

Chapel needs to face some music as well.

I do find it hard to believe something like this can't be sussed out by the tech on the ship. But the expressions on their faces show that Pike and La'an aren't really buying it. I need to watch this again to pick up more layers. This episode is uncomfortable and the kind that provokes discussion. Mission Accomplished. I haven't enjoyed an episode this much since the first season.
 
I think you're overthinking it. They said "We need M'Benga, the knife, and Chapel all in the same room where Rah can approach them." If you want to justify it, beyond that reality, then you can realize M'Benga was going through stuff and he was keeping his closest connection to those events close to him. And he had to be in sick bay.

They nicely planted this aspect of his behavior in the first episode of the season, establishing that he carries the "Protocol 12" with him at all times despite hating the idea of using it.
 
I liked the subtle nod to M'Benga's daughter being suspended inside a transporter buffer when he and Chapel are discussing how to keep the battlefield transporters at maximum capacity during combat. Wait, you can store somebody's pattern inside the buffer long enough to bring other patients in? That's amazing!
 
I liked the subtle nod to M'Benga's daughter being suspended inside a transporter buffer when he and Chapel are discussing how to keep the battlefield transporters at maximum capacity during combat. Wait, you can store somebody's pattern inside the buffer long enough to bring other patients in? That's amazing!
Yeah, it was poignant that the method he was using to keep his daughter alive was a trick that he invented or learned practicing combat medicine.
 
agreed, there's biobed 1 and probably a few more, and a whole sickbay full of equipment and supplies. Chapel did manual stimulation on a guy's heart "a few years ago", I'm sure they COULD have done SOMETHING to treat the wound, but, they weren't about to do anything to help that cowardly murderer.
If they saved him then he could point out that Dr. Super Assassin carries a knife around sickbay.
 
I'm open to wherever the writers decide to take M'Benga's story. I don't give a fuck how or whether it fits with TOS.
Neither do I, honestly. I prefer they just take it in whatever direction works best for the characters they've crafted for this series. Totally fine they just used TOS as a springboard to build their own series from.

Hell, at this point, Chapel would need a lobotomy to be the same character Majel played. :rommie:
 
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