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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x08 - "Under the Cloak of War"

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in the next 2 episode we'll get some good Spock/Chapel stuff?

I hope?

I want more from them!

Definitely. That relationship has longer to run. I'm not sure that it'll be resolved this season, though I won't be surprised if it's hanging a little tenuously at the end of episode ten - just because TV producers like to do that sort of thing. ;)
 
I think you're right and that didn't occur to me during the episode. I was puzzled as to why M'Benga seemed so authentic in his conversation with Pike stating "I didn't start the fight." Didn't gibe given that they're longtime friends. But that makes sense.

Even if he were only referring to that day's events, he could honestly say that he didn't start the fight. Dak'Rah was the one who insisted on engaging with M'Benga repeatedly, up until the last moment when he went to M'Benga's quarters (office?) and wouldn't leave even after the truth was out.
 
People were saying the Klingon blood was red, but that shot of the bloody knife, looks like pink to me. But maybe it was the lighting.
 
Even if he were only referring to that day's events, he could honestly say that he didn't start the fight. Dak'Rah was the one who insisted on engaging with M'Benga repeatedly, up until the last moment when he went to M'Benga's quarters (office?) and wouldn't leave even after the truth was out.

They shot that scene deliberately ambiguously. One can decide what one thinks is most plausible.

My own bias is that if the knife was ever in Rah's hand, it was very briefly.

OTOH...they made a specific effort in the sparring scene to demonstrate that Rah could handle M'Benga physically in hand-to-hand combat.
 
People were saying the Klingon blood was red, but that shot of the bloody knife, looks like pink to me.

Klingon blood has been shown to be red far more than it has been shown to be pink. Pink is the oddity, we know why the first time and any other time us just trying to be a reference/joke to that first time. Klingons, in the end, have red blood.
 
They shot that scene deliberately ambiguously. One can decide what one thinks is most plausible.

My own bias is that if the knife was ever in Rah's hand, it was very briefly.

OTOH...they made a specific effort in the sparring scene to demonstrate that Rah could handle M'Benga physically in hand-to-hand combat.
Yes, and the last we saw the knife it was sitting in the box, and it seemed to me that M'Benga had decided to walk away from it. The last bit of conversation either pushed him over the edge or something else we weren't privy to happened.
 
Klingon blood has been shown to be red far more than it has been shown to be pink. Pink is the oddity, we know why the first time and any other time us just trying to be a reference/joke to that first time. Klingond, in the end, have red blood.
Crappy lighting on those old Klingon Birds of Prey...
 
Yes, and the last we saw the knife it was sitting in the box, and it seemed to me that M'Benga had decided to walk away from it. The last bit of conversation either pushed him over the edge or something else we weren't privy to happened.


That whole scene was adroitly constructed to make everything ambiguous.

There are several story reasons for having Christine walk in on the fight, but the most important one, IMO, is to justify moving the camera POV from what had been very close, even tight angles on M'Benga and Rah to a position where it would not show what happened.

We intuitively accept this as a cut to Christine's POV, instead of immediately saying "Huh? Why did they move the camera? Cheaters!" :lol:
 
I loved the episode. My second 10 rating for the season.

Asking his crew members who fought in that war to have dinner with their former enemy was foolish on Pike's part. People who experience war never forget it. I thought this episode did a great job of hammering home the effects PTSD has on veterans. This reminded me of Nog's issues after the Siege or AR-155 and the crew's prejudices against Klingons reminded me of TUC.

I do find it surprising that we watch a member of Starfleet murder someone in cold blood and others help cover it up. Are there no security cameras in sick bay? This is not the perfect Starfleet that TNG tried to portray and I'm sure this episode will be hated for that reason. But it's certainly the most human.

The only negative I have with this episode is in some shots that Klingon head piece looked really fake on that actor's head.
 
So of course after all this praise next week's episode is possibly the worst episode in the entire Star Trek franchise, because this show can't have more then one or two good episodes in a row without reminding you that the people in charge just really want to be making a cringey sitcom, but presumably got stuck on a Star Trek show instead.

The episode hasn't even streamed yet and you're already calling it "possibly the worst episode" in the franchise. So much for an open mind.
 
Klingon blood has been shown to be red far more than it has been shown to be pink. Pink is the oddity, we know why the first time and any other time us just trying to be a reference/joke to that first time. Klingons, in the end, have red blood.
Also, blood will have a different hue if its source is arterial versus venous, and will change color when dried versus wet. At least that is how it works for most animals on Earth, perhaps it the same for Oxygen breathers from other planets.
 
This is the way that it has been for a long time. Look at the Allies in WW2 and the Soviets joining them. The German scientists being recruited?

Heck, even TUC makes the Federation the problem, and not acknowledging all the horrible things Klingons have done in the past.

I mean, maybe, but it seemed to me that this guy had a much more direct role in committing war crimes than, say, Wernher von Braun did.
 
The musical is going to be brilliant.
I do not often look in to threads which may have spoilers in, I have not seen Under the Cloak of War yet. One of my wishes from last season was to see the SNW gang do a musical in the vein of Bohemian Rhapsody with a few other modern numbers thrown in, I explicitly asked for this. In a universe of coincidences, I hope that this episode does not disappoint.
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