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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x08 - "Under the Cloak of War"

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So i think its obvious that when MBenga refers to 'I didn't start the fight' he is referring to the war, and that the fight started a long time ago but never ended until this point.
I think you're right and that didn't occur to me during the episode. I was puzzled as to why M'Benga seemed so authentic in his conversation with Pike stating "I didn't start the fight." Didn't gibe given that they're longtime friends. But that makes sense.
 
Considering they're using Stardates as carelessly as they did in TOS (I get the "joke" of it and love it) an actual Stardate would've been fine.

Speaking of careless stardates, Pike gives the stardate as 1875.4 in this episode (episode 8) while in the previous episode (episode 7), Pike tells Boimler the stardate is 2291.6 (which should place it *after* the current episode) Normally I might assume the episodes were just aired out of order, but the discomfort between Chapel and Spock in this episode seems to flow naturally from events in episode 7.
 
we've established that Chapel has some definite moral gray areas- she basically flat-out lied to her superiors to cover for M'Benga. She'd better not ever have to place her hand on the circular light of truth thingy about this, or she's going to be in trouble.

One of the side effects of Protocol 12 is being able to beat the circular light of truth thingy.
 
Do like that they referenced the 'Remain Klingon' message from the DSC Season 1.

Speaking of careless stardates, Pike gives the stardate as 1875.4 in this episode (episode 8) while in the previous episode (episode 7), Pike tells Boimler the stardate is 2291.6 (which should place it *after* the current episode) Normally I might assume the episodes were just aired out of order, but the discomfort between Chapel and Spock in this episode seems to flow naturally from events in episode 7.
They're just following TOS stardate logic, which were also nonsense.
 
Speaking of careless stardates, Pike gives the stardate as 1875.4 in this episode (episode 8) while in the previous episode (episode 7), Pike tells Boimler the stardate is 2291.6. Normally I might assume the episodes were just aired out of order, but the discomfort between Chapel and Spock in this episode seems to flow naturally from events in episode 7.

It's pretty much how it was in TOS. It's just a number to give a "date" without actually giving one.
 
And TOS stardates were also all over the map. As late as TAS in the 1970s one stardate was actually lower than "WNMHGB" had but set near the end of Kirk's five-year mission.
 
I thought that was the whole point of the "Vulcan Hello." She did know how (or believed she knew how) because of the Vulcans previous encounter. Am I misremembering?
Michael got advice from her Adopted dad, Sarek, on how to deal with Vulcans.
That means be aggressive and fight back first.

StarFleet & UFP has a policy of not being the people who deliver the first blow.
Ergo the mutiny when she insisted her policy was the right policy based on following her dad's advice blindly.
 
I can't buy that Pike is so dumb that he doesn't recognize that M'Benga obviously murdered Rah. Nu Pike can generally read people quite well.

After the way he covered for Una in S1, if it is true that Pike suspects M'Benga and just lets it go, it starts to seriously impinge on his moral character as a starship captain. How much shady shit is he supposed to turn a blind eye to?

Then again, maybe knowing his own fate, he just doesn't GAF.
 
Transporter records would tell if the ambassador had brought the dagger on board with him or not.
I don’t suppose Starfleet will investigate the matter too deeply.
Having a Klingon ambassador get aced by a traumatized veteran onboard the flagship?Yeah but no.
 
One of the side effects of Protocol 12 is being able to beat the circular light of truth thingy.

Or just rip it right off the witness chair and use it to beat the prosecutor to death with. ;)

...Wait! Maybe that's how Pike's girlfriend Batel gets taken out! :devil:
 
All the stardates during TOS and TAS ranged between 1254.0 and 5943.7. That's almost five years in deep space with many going backwards.
 
I don't know. I've worked with enough different people that receiving horrible news doesn't always warrant an immediate reaction. It sometimes is a moment of just taking in information.
This. To me, Chris was weighing his words, trying to break fairly bad news to M'Benga, and following up with letting M'Benga know that he was there for him if he needed to talk, because it seems clear to me Chris wasn't quite sure whether or not Joseph was telling the truth or not.
 
I don’t see how M’Benga ends up walking away from one with no prison time, though. Getting the case with the knife out is premeditation.
Everyone assumes that klingon brought the knife to the medical lab as it was his knife and had the blood of the three klingons the ambassador claimed to have killed on it. Plus the show left it up to the audience as to who started the fight. Sometimes it seems like people just don't pay attention
 
Everyone assumes that klingon brought the knife to the medical lab as it was his knife and had the blood of the three klingons the ambassador claimed to have killed on it. Plus the show left it up to the audience as to who started the fight. Sometimes it seems like people just don't pay attention
Well, and what evidence does the audience know vs. what can be proven?

We assume the characters know everything we see but that's impossible.
 
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