Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x06 - "Lost in Translation"

[Pauln6]

Nope, Sulu was too busy pivoting at Warp 2 bringing the tubes to bear. And he had lines...

Chekov also fires on the Orion ship from both the nav station and Spock's station in 'Journey to Babel.' Phasers and photon torpedoes this time.

Oof. I had forgotten that. It does make sense that stations are adaptable, especially considering how often they explode. The engineering station does almost nothing in TOS but is vital when redubbed as Ops and manned by a main character. Still, you would think that there would be a protocol determining which station has priority. It doesn't really make sense to have your helmsman fire weapons in combat. They are going to be pretty busy.

 

[NCC-73515]

Fair point! Where were M'Benga's killer skills in that scenario!

Oh, and I edited my post to make more sense... I meant to say that Pelia's accent is so thick that I can't always understand what she's saying. Weirdly, I can always understand M'Benga!

It's the opposite for me - Pelia is far easier to understand than M'Benga

The episode is basically DIS S4 in reverse, with Starfleet playing the role of Species 10-C.

Exactly: The Deuterians here told SF that their machine is killing them by sending hallucinatory impressions of death and horror, just like SF told 10-C that their machine kills them by signalling death and horror in molecular blinky language.
No "gibberish" or "actual fuck", as the usual suspects would say, but simple parallels that are not very difficult to follow...

 

[Eddie Roth]

Not a bad ep. Fortunately, I hadn't noticed the episode title, so I had a mystery for a while.

Uhura shone in this episode as did Kirk. Wesley's Kirk is really coming into his own now. And the sibling rivalry between the Kirk brothers is amusing.

Less amusing - Pelia. I'm just not warming up to her.

The romance. WTH Christine? Longing gazes all feckin' season and finally you get him and meh? What is WRONG with you? And given how Chapel moons after him in TOS...I just wanna bang my head against a door or something. It would have been nice to have had a week or two of niceness before the inevitable breakup/return to T'Pring.

Like most, I'd like to see more Pike.

Hemmer, good use of the character.

A nice solid episode. I'm not so sure about the crossover, because as much as I like Lower Decks, I'm not sure how that bunch of clueless funny losers will fit in the "real" Trek world. Stay tuned, I guess.

This kind of sums up my own feelings about this one too. These days I breathe a sigh of relief when a SNW episode doesn't annoy me (as 2002-style family sitcom "Charades" did massively). This was overlong, and Pelia still irks me too, but on the whole, they used the characters well, came to some character development and told a story that was generally Trekkian. Unlike TBonz, I do like the direction this indicates for Spock/Chapel, canon hound that I am, because let's face it, however much y'all enjoy the Bush-Chapel, at some point she will have to turn into quiet, mousey Barrett-Chapel whose relationship with Spock is entirely one-sided.

 

[Seven of Five]

I enjoyed this one. The noise they kept making when the Strange New aliens communicated with Uhura was jarring and unsettling for me.

I loved that Kirk was the only one who believed her and went to bat for her. Also, James and Sam both squabbling was priceless.

I really enjoyed the meditation on death here with Una and Pelia, with Una missing Hemmer, and Pelia being the one who replaced her. I thought the image of Hemmer they used to communicate with Uhura was effectively done too, particularly because of her replaying the moment he taught her to do engineering work earlier in the episode.

The only thing that didn't work was the search for the crazy crewmember, which was a bit disjointed.

 

[jackoverfull]

It's the opposite for me - Pelia is far easier to understand than M'Benga

yeah, M’Benga is the only one I need to turn on subtitles for. No problems with any of the others.

 

[Brainsucker]

I liked Quinto, alot. But Peck is better by a country mile. It's his voice, his posture, his little mannerisms. If Nimoy is a 10, Peck is a 9.5.

Well, Quinto was only play for 3 episodes of Star Trek. While Pike already play for 2 seasons of SNW + 1 season of Discovery. That's why Pike grow more to me than Quinto ever does.

 

[Tallguy]

Another thing, does Spock and Pike ever talk to each other anymore? I want to know why Spock would risk his life and career for him by taking him back to Talos IV. That could have been an undercurrent theme in this series and we really haven’t seen it.

While I certainly want more I think there is no doubt that question was answered last season. In general over the whole show and in specific at the end of A Quality of Mercy.

But yes, Spock seems to have other things to do this season.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

No.

I don't care one way or the other about this stuff generally, but why do you object to it so?

It doesn't bother me what 'timeline' everything takes place in as you know, but I do think a separation could be liberating for pretty much everyone involved, meaning the creative forces behind the show and the fandom menace.

The stories and characters would still be the same... Maybe I'm just not very invested in the idea of a 'prime' universe?

 

[Mudd]

I deleted my posts. Discussing Trek continuity is a waste of life.

 

[StarMan]

Late to the party. Good episode. LOL @ the Fleet Captain bit.

Wesley's best outing yet. First time I fully accepted him as Kirk without thinking "okay, that's meant to be Kirk", if that makes sense.

At this juncture, if people aren't happy with the show but persist in watching, that's on them. This show is doing precisely what it means to and doing it well.

Solid 8 / 10.

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

8.3/10.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Quinto seems a lot angrier than Nimoy's Spock.

That's because they had Quinto lose his shit about once a movie.

 

[fireproof78]

That's because they had Quinto lose his shit about once a movie.

Can't imagine why...

 

[Mid Mod]

I deleted my posts. Discussing Trek continuity is a waste of life.

After the trauma of watching Star Wars try to make all their media tie-ins match up to the shows—and vice versa, which is even worse—I am totally fine with breaking continuity in service of a good story. The only caveat is that the quality of the story should be worthy of the continuity break, i.e. I don’t care if they change minor details as long as the broad strokes are kept, but if they want to change a big thing, it better be for a spectacular story.

 

[El Maestro]

yeah, M’Benga is the only one I need to turn on subtitles for. No problems with any of the others.

Oh man I feel this. If the “M” stood for something it would be “mumble.”

 

[MarsWeeps]

It's the opposite for me - Pelia is far easier to understand than M'Benga

I understand both perfectly....but that's probably because I turn on subtitles.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't have subtitles and M'Benga sounds fine to me.

 

[MarsWeeps]

I don't have subtitles and M'Benga sounds fine to me.

I need them due to hearing loss. They can be humorous at times when they make mistakes.

 

[Okmyx]

I understand both perfectly....but that's probably because I turn on subtitles.

I watch each episode 3 times. The 2nd time is with subtitles turned on so I can pick up the dialogue I missed the first time (usually just M'Benga and now Pelia). I also have hearing loss, so a lot of stuff gets "lost in translation". The 3rd time is to just plain enjoy the episode.

Okay, I'll watch it more than 3 times if it's really good. The only episodes I've only watched 3 times are Serene Squall and Elysian Kingdom, but that's a different thread.

Was that a baby gorn skeleton on Sam's table?

 

[Mudd]

I could only watch “Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach” once. It's too stark and awful. Great, great episode, though.