How to resolve 6 Voyager Inconsistencies in 85 seconds

[at Quark's]

Totally agreed. I could especially see female Kazon allying with them, considering how sexist the Kazon are.

Did we ever even see one (female Kazon) on screen?

 

[Oddish]

Memory Alpha has a picture of one, but I couldn't get it to come up on my phone.

 

[Farscape One]

Memory Alpha has a picture of one, but I couldn't get it to come up on my phone.

I know the picture you are talking about. It was a female Kazon, but was a background one. Difficult to see, even with the closeup Memory Alpha picture.

 

[Lynx]

I agree, it would have taken serialization and a new plot taking over from their "Gilligan's Island in Space" starter plot because that kind of story never goes anywhere. Things that were too experimental back in the 90s for a Conservative network.

I still think the plot about "lost in space could have worked with better writers and producers.

Why couldn't they have taken the story to the Gamma Quadrant for two or three seasons. That could have created some interesting scenarios.

Maybe something daring, like that story I read in a Wild West comic magazine as a kid, about a troop of Confederate soldiers dressed in civilian clothes who were sent on a dangerous mission behind enemy lines to attack a fortress in Nebraska in order to steal money which was supposed to be payment to the Union soldiers. Stealing the money would possibly damage the moral among the Union soldiers

The attack on the fort was succesful and the Confederates managed to steal the money which was meant as payment for the Union soldiers.

But some month later when two of the Confederate soldiers on a scouting mission enters a small town, they find a WANTED poster on a house The poster tells the story about bandits attacking a fortress and stealing money. They also find out that the war had ended three weeks before the attack on the fortress and that those Confederate soldiers are now wanted and labeled as simple bandits and thieves.

Why not something similar about Voyager "behind enemy lines"?

Welcome to fickle Hollywood politics.

I'm actually amazed of the rotten politics, backstabbing, lying and conflicts in the TV and movie business.

It makes the most scandalized rock bands look like small well-behaved schoolkids.

And extreme interference from idiot higher-ups.

Sure, when he gave a darn. Which wasn't often enough. Look at how poor his acting in that video was compared to Kate and Martha!

He was still good enough to make more of the character. After all, he was supposed to be the equivalent of Spock, Riker and Kira.

It didn't help that Beltran was phoning it in so often. Apparently some of this was because he wanted to work with Janeway's first actress. That Canadian lady. But when she got replaced he lost interest.

If that was the reason, it was a bit unprofessional. In that case, he could have quit too. But I would find it hard to watch another Chakotay.

IIRC, Homicide did that with the Crosetti actor.

it's always better to tell the truth because the truth will come out sooner or later.

Berman said something along the lines of how if he'd been allowed to do what he wanted, he'd have waited till DS9 was done and then hire a whole new staff to do VOY after.

Which is exactly what they should have done. I agree with Berman here.

Eh, they were making it clear he was there as an obligation and they didn't care about his character and it was due to Wang's own fault for provoking this. Immature, maybe.

Very immature. Instead of solving the problem, they let it drag on for four more years.
Not to mention the damage to the character.

Really, one other problem was making the crew Starfleet and Maquis to start with. The ship should have had crew members who were Delta Quadrant aliens themselves.

They had Neelix and Kes but wasted both of them!

They could have had more. Why not keep Seska alive! A prisoner who could have been released to help out with the question "Will she be a Garak or a Dukat in the long run"?
Or why not keep Wixiban? Good character.
Amelia Earhart may have been a bit over the top but maybe someone else from that planet. Or some other alien.
Otherwise I think that the Starfleet-Maquis crew thing did function quite good. Fortunately they didn't turn it into the never-ending bickering party which haunted Stargate Universe.

I think that in order to find this a problem, you'd both have to notice and care about it. I wouldn't be surprised if many viewers noticed but didn't really care as it didn't take away from their immersion of what was only a bit of light entertainment for them, or thought something along the lines of, 'oh well, the statement that they couldn't be replaced was made early in season 1 - they probably gradually became more self-reliant as time went on; they even started cranking out shuttles and Delta Flyers in later years'.

Too many viewers just sat it out. But there were a lot of debating on many forums even back then about it.

"Non Sequitur" would have been fine as a means of deleting Harry. Just have him realize that the accident can't be reversed, and he stays in San Francisco, gets caught up on his shuttle design, marries Libby, makes babies, and most important... tells everyone that Voyager is still out there.

There is a problem with that solution which is Tom Paris. He would have remained on Earth in that scenario as a drunk and a loser which would have been sad for such a good cvharacter.

Why not just use the DS9 staff? They were a pretty capable bunch, and they knew how to not fall into the "let's make more TNG" booby trap.

Yes!

From a common sense perspective, such a puerile tactic says far more about them than it does about Harry or the actor who played him. However, given the amount of abuse heaped on Harry during and since Voyager's run, it's obvious that not everyone took such a perspective. In any case, it seems to me that 29 years is a LONG time to keep a vendetta going... but all efforts to redeem the character have been stymied.

I totally agree.
Not even me could keep up the Kes vendetta forever.
One day I actually woke up and said to myself: "I'm sick and tired of this"!
Then I made a radical change in my attitude, even if the whole Kes thing still actually annoys me from time to time, I have to admit that.

They certainly could have added more strays to their ship's company than they did. It's kind of hard to believe that only one Delta Quadrant native (Icheb) made it home with them.

See my comments about this earlier in this post.

 

[Oddish]

There is a problem with that solution which is Tom Paris. He would have remained on Earth in that scenario as a drunk and a loser which would have been sad for such a good cvharacter.

Remember that the Tom in that alternate universe died, and the "real" Tom was unaffected. So he'd still be on Voyager. The problem of Tom in the AU Earth could be solved several ways...
1. Don't mention him. It's just presumed that the Tom in this reality still made it to Voyager.
2. Have him survive, and have Harry's story of his counterpart's life on Voyager inspire him to stop getting drunk and feeling sorry for himself.

They could have had more. Why not keep Seska alive! A prisoner who could have been released to help out with the question "Will she be a Garak or a Dukat in the long run"?

That's a great scenario, I thought. In an AU I wrote once, Seska's deception is discovered at a different time, when there's no Kazon ship nearby. She spends the next few months in the brig, until the Year of Hell (which actually happens) ensures that they need every able-bodied crewman helping out. After that, she serves as Voyager's de facto spymaster.