I think it was explained that she was the one who wasn't injured, so they assumed his code was messed up because it didn't match hers. So they fixed him right up.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"
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Perhaps part of it is that it is more than just sex, the physical act, but allowing for the mental/telepathic connection as well. We're trying to understand it in purely human terms, but it isn't that simple. These are primal urges that now have to be sterilized through order and tradition.
Pon farr discussions start to wear on my nerves.
Yeah that's why I think it needs to be with a Vulcan, there's some kind of telepathic connection. When Trip is bonded with T'Pol, the Orion women have no effect on him. And it explains the whole 'almost hurting Kirk stopped my pon farr' thing, that there is a mental aspect to it. Also perhaps because his human emotions interrupted it.
Didn't Tuvok relieve Pon Farr in the holodeck?
Yes, he said that it wouldn't work but it turned out it did.
The Doctor is the master of porn.
I struggled with this one, with some personal contradictions. Like for example I found the parent stuff a bit cringeworthy and silly, but then I asked myself didn't I like the Lwaxana stuff? Oh yes I did.
I do wonder if episode count is a thing. When you have 26 you go whatever, next week it'll be something else. The value is almost lower, it's a commodity of sorts. When it's ten I feel a bit anxious if this is optimal use of time.
Great: I thought Peck was excellent and showing a huge range and some wonderful nuance.
Unsure: feels very 90s, meet the parents kind of humour. A bit dated.
Great: new species, new interaction, interesting effects.
Hate: fist bump. Minor, but it just snaps me out of Trek universe.
Great: some of the humour. I laughed at sacred word with two sacred syllables. The women impersonating Spock.
Disliked: the controlling and abusive relationship vibes of T'Pring's mother over the father.
At one point I thought it would have been interesting to have Spock separated into his two halves, but them remembered they did that with B'Elanna. And it would have not allowed the comedy to take place.
And as they made Spock to be a petulant, Westernised teenager human I did think they were basically saying what's the point of humanity then totally saved it with his defence of his mother. That was the best scene.
As to the ending, it's not something I feel I need or buy into but know many well and each to their own. And more importantly T'Pring had barely left his quarters and he was banging Chapel. Is this not "We were on a break?" for the 21st century?
I suspect this could become iconic.
I do wonder if episode count is a thing. When you have 26 you go whatever, next week it'll be something else. The value is almost lower, it's a commodity of sorts. When it's ten I feel a bit anxious if this is optimal use of time.
Great: I thought Peck was excellent and showing a huge range and some wonderful nuance.
Unsure: feels very 90s, meet the parents kind of humour. A bit dated.
Great: new species, new interaction, interesting effects.
Hate: fist bump. Minor, but it just snaps me out of Trek universe.
Great: some of the humour. I laughed at sacred word with two sacred syllables. The women impersonating Spock.
Disliked: the controlling and abusive relationship vibes of T'Pring's mother over the father.
At one point I thought it would have been interesting to have Spock separated into his two halves, but them remembered they did that with B'Elanna. And it would have not allowed the comedy to take place.
And as they made Spock to be a petulant, Westernised teenager human I did think they were basically saying what's the point of humanity then totally saved it with his defence of his mother. That was the best scene.
As to the ending, it's not something I feel I need or buy into but know many well and each to their own. And more importantly T'Pring had barely left his quarters and he was banging Chapel. Is this not "We were on a break?" for the 21st century?
I suspect this could become iconic.
I thought it didn't and he needed a fight? Or am I mis-remembering?
Holodeck didn't work for Vorik. It worked for Tuvok. So it seems there's inconsistencies even in the same show among Vulcans, or for each Vulcan pon farr is different.
So agreed. I see this in Peck and where they're going. To me the pathway feels... well I was going to say logical no pun intended, but it feels logical. This is someone who is working stuff out and almost through these learnings can become that assured yet slightly provocative/playful Vulcan that we see later.
I've seen people try to say that Spock/McCoy is racist and all sorts, but no it's camaraderie and Spock gives as good as he gets.
Ahh yes I'm thinking of Vorick. I'm getting rusty!
Wow. Just... wow.
Let's be very clear here: Chloe Bennet is not "half Chinese, half American." She is 100% American. She is a natural-born citizen of the United States. Her racial or ethnic heritage is utterly irrelevant to whether or not she's American.
And it is incredibly inappropriate to call biracial people "hybrids." A hybrid is an offspring of two separate species. There is no such thing as a human "hybrid" today and hasn't been since the Neanderthals went extinct, because all human beings are the same species.
This is absolutely false. Hollywood is no more or less morally corrupt than any other industry. To say "Hollywood is, generally speaking, bereft of morals" is only true to the extent that it is also true of, say, Nashville, TN, or Gary, IN, or Laramie, WY, or Mobile, AL, or Orlando, FL, or Juno, AK.
Exploring their feelings for one-another at a time when Spock's relationship with T'Pring is at best on a "pause" and at worst is effectively over is not "morally corrupting." In fact, a pause is the appropriate time to take such action, so that Spock can fully comprehend his own feelings for both potential long-term partners and make a decision between them.
(Of course, all of their so-called problems would be solved if they were willing to give ethical polyamory a try, but I digress.)
He is still an honorable guy.
There's a difference between being honorable and being obedient.
I think there are two ways to approach this:
From an in-universe POV, I would suggest that this scene is part of a montage that establishes that Spock's brain is not working properly. Because he has never before been fully Human, he has lost some of the neurological function he experienced previously as a Vulcan, and even basic emotions that a normal Human could regulate are not quite within his capacity to control. The effect seems to have diminished over time as his brain adjusted to being Human -- hence him having more control towards the end of the episode than at the start. But he had never before smelled or tasted bacon with Human biology, and the pleasure of it overwhelmed his normal judgment. I have no doubt that if he had remained Human, he would have within a few days improved his neurological function and become embarrassed and ashamed that he had eaten meat.
From a metatextual, real-life POV, I would take this as part of a thematic indication that there is something fundamentally wrong about Spock without his Vulcan half, that he is incomplete and damaged without this essential part of himself. He's truly not himself, and this is why Christine treats the crises as though it will result in Spock "dying" -- because in a way, it will.
Well, Tuvok is older. Maybe older Vulcans' pon farr cycles function differently than younger Vulcans'.
Tuvok may have been able to think of his wife and their connection which crosses reality according to Lxannna Troi and was confirmed for Sarek and Michael.
Or maybe Vorik just really wanted Torres.
People are different. Vulcans are very different. T'Pol was a late bloomer. Or maybe Pon Farr is more complicated than we know right now.
Also, no pockets.
T'Pol was 65 years old when her pon farr hit. So who knows?
And yet, disrespect.
It's not consistent. But it does show the Spock critics that waiting for T'Pring to be 37 is nothing compared to what's going on with T'Pol.
In T'Pring's defense, it's not just that Spock balked in confiding in her at one particular moment, when he was arguably not himself. If it was just that one time, it probably would not have bothered her as much.
But this was in the context of an ongoing situation in which (from her perspective), Spock keeps prioritizing the Enterprise and Starfleet over their relationship. So that in this instance, when he again turns to his crew members instead of her, it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. (Do they have camels on Vulcan?)
And that, yes, it was Chapel who rushed in to heal Spock at the end, interrupting the ceremony, was adding insult to injury. Let's give T'Pring credit for not being completely oblivious to the fact that Spock and Chapel have some sort of unspoken connection . . . or at least having reason to harbor suspicions along those lines.
"Seriously? You again?"
But this was in the context of an ongoing situation in which (from her perspective), Spock keeps prioritizing the Enterprise and Starfleet over their relationship. So that in this instance, when he again turns to his crew members instead of her, it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. (Do they have camels on Vulcan?)
And that, yes, it was Chapel who rushed in to heal Spock at the end, interrupting the ceremony, was adding insult to injury. Let's give T'Pring credit for not being completely oblivious to the fact that Spock and Chapel have some sort of unspoken connection . . . or at least having reason to harbor suspicions along those lines.
"Seriously? You again?"
So, you're saying it's Star Trek?
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