Is Chapel been written worse than TOS? (episode 5 spoilers)
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That's no excuse, much less a reason for posting such nonsense.
SNW's Chapel rocks. Period. Full stop.
That's not to diminish Majel Barrett's performance but, in all fairness, she was given very little to work with back then.
NuChapel kicks ass. Sorry, but the premise of this thread is objectively and factually wrong.
Oh, and...
factually wrong? but given no proof.
remember what I said, the reason she is worse here is because she is having a full blown affair with a man who has taken a break from his fiance when he should have called it off once and for all.
Usually, if a man will not officially leave another girl for you regardless of how much he claims to care or love you. you are still, ''the other woman'' since spock still has a fiance.
I dont recall when society became cool with the girl who the other woman. when this stories are written, there is usually a big red flag to why it is wrong, hence the ross and rachel ...we were on a break moment and we are meant to hold spock to a higher standard than a human like ross geller.
for a most modern world, with writing female characters, this was a jump the shark in writing chapel choosing to get along with spock, she should have asked him, if it was officially over with tpring first. that will have been better writing.
if they wanted to mess with canon, then they should have nuked the spock/tpring here once and for all. instead the writers just made chapel and spock look bad.
Like when in DS9 and PIC they went back in time to 2024 and there was no evidence whatsoever of the devastating war that occurred just 30 years ago? Are they in a different timeline to TOS too? Even if you say that US soil wasn't directly affected, surely there'd be loads of homeless veterans or a distinct lack of men of a certain age (or perhaps even women).
EDIT: Never mind, this isn't the right thread for this debate.
They do not. "New timeline/old timeline" is a bit of fannish gibberish that needs to die. The writers have revised the fictional narrative, and it is not appropriate behavior for adults to rationalize that in order to pretend that the fictional is real.
Both Spock and T'Pring had relationships with others in TOS while engaged to each other. Why are people acting like this is weird?
I think it's also a Nod to the fact that Majel was Roddenberry's mistress.
I think either it will become obvious to both is that a relationship with a fellow crewman is a bad idea or Chapel will decide to focus on academia.
What's more interesting is that if they do transition to Phase II in a few years, older Spock and Chapel will be serving together again.
I think it's also a Nod to the fact that Majel was Roddenberry's mistress.
I think either it will become obvious to both is that a relationship with a fellow crewman is a bad idea or Chapel will decide to focus on academia.
What's more interesting is that if they do transition to Phase II in a few years, older Spock and Chapel will be serving together again.
They literally spelled out that a big of backstory has been changed, and in doing so means they can make whatever changes they want going forward using that exact same excuse.
Since when is that a bad thing?
Yeah, in the same way the did in Berman era Trek with VOY's Future's End, the feature film Star Trek: First Contact, and ENT's Regeneration. It's clear as mud - but hey, that's the Star Trek Franchise.
Because they set up these characters as heroes and fill in the gaps as heroic characters who never struggled.
Save for when they totally did.
It rewards inanity while trying to have it's cake and eat it too.
Is it bad? No. It's just needlessly complicated.
I'm intrigued by the notion that everything can be blamed on First Contact.
The events of ENT: "Regeneration" are a direct result of First Contact. If one episode could be entirely created by this particular act of time travel, then who knows what else could have been affected?
Spock was meant to be a man of integrity. Tpring was more all over the place.
I think it's also a Nod to the fact that Majel was Roddenberry's mistress.
This is frowned upon and it is not a good look to be a mistress in any way. Also Majel went on to marry Gene.
but you do prove my point, since when is it cool for a woman to be a mistress in a post me too and times up world that saw a shift for stronger female characters on TV.
No and it baffles me that anyone could think differently.
I've just realised. SNW and LD are doing a crossover. Obviously LD is set in the same timeline as TOS/TNG etc. So if SNW is set in a different timeline, then how's the crossover going to work? I suppose we'll have to wait and see if the crossover changes anything.
Could not disagree more with this statement. Spock needs to be there simply due to the premise of the show and when it takes place.
I can answer this for you right now having not even seen that episode yet: SNW is not set in a different timeline so there's no need to speculate on how that's going to work. You timeline deniers are still around?
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To answer your thread title: No.
I'm not a timeline denier. I'm pointing it out to show the timeline deniers that their argument is silly. Perhaps I should have explained myself better.
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