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Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident
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It seems you didn't know what I meant by movie era.Sorry Chief. Beyond the white colour, I ain't seeing it.
Sort of. Allegedly, in the first draft of the script the villain really was a renegade Starfleet officer. Then, Orci had the idea of "what if we reveal the renegade officer was really Khan?" Then him and Lindelof spent a whole year arguing the matter over, resulting in the movie getting its release date postponed from 2012 to 2013.
Point still stands.
Which is stupid that it postponed over a nonsense plot point.
60s era is just like the 70s era, donchaknow?
Ok. Sure. But that’s not the story they wanted to tell.
Yes. But the temptation seems to have been too great.
It’s my favourite Trek film, by far, but Khan’s presence in the story is close to irrelevant to my enjoyment. Not that I mind he’s in the story, just that it would have worked, in universe, just as well as if John Harrison wasn’t a cover. I also didn’t care that Cumberbatch was Khan, as the movie explicitly stated Harrison was a fiction (and how hard would a physical alteration be for Trek tech? Didn’t need it explained or portrayed on screen—I have an imagination of my own.).
In any case, despite its flaws, it remains my favourite and I like it better every time I watch it (that’s not especially true of most Trek films).
this, of course, goes against their first and second choice to play the part
I remember reading back then that the actors said Erickson in some scenes, because he was supposed to be a Nordic augment. John Erickson was the original character in the Space Seed draft. They changed it to Harrison and dubbed the scenes that were already filmed, because Harrison and Erickson look the same on the mouth. Why did they change it? Because they realized fans will notice Erickson is an augment before that is revealed.
You have to be specific. There have been three or four movie eras.
1895 to 1910 - The Pioneer Era
1911 to 1926 - The Silent Era
1927 to 1940 - Talkies and the rise of the Hollywood studios
1941 to 1954 - Golden Era
1955 to 1976 – "Changes" Era
1977 to late 1990s - Blockbuster Era
And whatever the current era will be called (Superhero Era? idk)
I count 7
No, there is only one called the movie era. The others two periods are either still part of the TNG/DS9/Voyager era or in the Kelvin timeline.
There's only one you call "the movie era." There are the TOS-based movies, the TNG-based movies, and the nuTrek movies. all of which have different design aesthetics. Each is an era of Trek movies.
I maybe willing to entertain your claim in regards to the TNG movies (though I personally don't agree with it) but the Kelvin timeline is definitely another movie era on account of its only canonical content being movies.
Now I gather you probably don't like the Kelvin movies since they came after 2005, but one's own personal opinion is not a factor in whether it counts as a "movie era" or not.
Hey, it's the local parlance around this website. When someone on this website wants to refer to the time period the Star Trek the motion picture through Star Trek the undiscovered country takes place in they call it the movie era. That's because the only Star Trek happening in that time period are six. movies. You want to refer to the new movies, you tell them the Kelvin universe movie because that's what they are. You want to refer to before next generation movies that's what you call them. The next generation movies which take place during the Voyager era. But if you're going to refer to the six movies with the original crew, that's the movie era because there's nothing else that's happening around them.
To be frank I am not a fan of the new movies. I found the first one to be a little lackluster and not quite in keeping with the Star Trek universe. The second one is just horribly written miscast and I'll leave it at that. Beyond was an excellent film that I only had one issue with, but it felt like Star Trek and it was the best of the three. I think the cast on all three movies is amazing but the Enterprise design leaves a lot to be desired.
I'd like for Counter-Clock Incident to be updated with Adrian Holmes' likeness. It's not unheard of, for example Ian McDiarmid was added into Empire Strikes Back even though someone else played the Emperor in the original theatrical release. Don't think it's going to happen though
I think TAS is a forgotten step-child of Trek, save only for LD jokes.
So that's an argument against?
Clive Revill's voice as the Emperor is still on of my favorite parts of that movie, after the Asteroid Chase scene.
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