Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Verteron]

If Chateau Picard even makes a synthehol edition, it would be several years before the wine would have matured enough to be drunk.

Besides, Captains always have their own stash of real alcoholic beverages, even in the era when sythehol was common, Picard had real Aldebaran whiskey, Sisko managed to get access to Klingon Blood Wine, and whatever he was drinking while making his log entry in Pale Moonlight.

 

[cooleddie74]

Archer had a bottle of whiskey dating back to the end of the 21st or the beginning of the 22nd century that he saved until just before Trip's death in 2161.

 

[Noname Given]

You're all forgetting Scotty's bottle of green.

 

[Commander Troi]

Probably Midori.

 

[Nyotarules]

You're all forgetting Scotty's bottle of green.

Vulcan blood wine?

 

[Cyrus]

Only Boyce drinks martinis in the future.

Dr Bashir too when he is playing the James Bond type holodeck character except he likes it "Stirred, not shaken".

 

[Nyotarules]

The traditional definition of Lotus eaters does not suit episode 4 at all

 

[ichab]

For some reason when I read Lotus Eaters I thought it was going to be a Gorn episode.

 

[Noname Given]

For some reason when I read Lotus Eaters I thought it was going to be a Gorn episode.

Except it appears that baby Gorn are carnivores not herbivores or omnivores.

 

[Cyrus]

The latest episode had a lot of TOS feel to it. The director of the episode says he tried to shoot it TOS style:
https://trekmovie.com/2023/07/09/in...-to-bringing-tos-style-to-strange-new-worlds/

 

[Yistaan]

Hemmer establishes in Season 1 that 23rd century Starfleet ships had biofilters (they make a point that Gorn eggs aren't detected by them). It's not clear if TOS/TOS movie ships had biofilters since they were first mentioned in TNG.

The Kid Khan episode establishes SNW as a new timeline per the delayed Eugenics Wars date. In this new timeline we assume the same thing happens in Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, more or less.

However, if the new timeline has biofilters as SNW established, how can the events of Wrath of Khan be the same? This isn't something as simple as Khan changing his monologue about fleeing Earth in 1996 to 2036 or whatever. The new timeline has biofilters on all ships now, including presumably the Reliant. How can ceti eel infected Chekov and Terrell be beamed back if the transporters will now detect them as having parasites, without attempts to remove them?

 

[Tuskin38]

How can ceti eel infected Chekov and Terrell be beamed back if the transporters will now detect them as having parasites, without attempts to remove them?

The same reason the Gorn eggs weren't.

 

[HotRod]

The Kid Khan episode establishes SNW as a new timeline per the delayed Eugenics Wars date.

Nope.

 

[Quantum21]

Picard highlighted the changed timeline in season 2.

It's Prime-A so to speak.

Hemmer establishes in Season 1 that 23rd century Starfleet ships had biofilters (they make a point that Gorn eggs aren't detected by them). It's not clear if TOS/TOS movie ships had biofilters since they were first mentioned in TNG.

The Kid Khan episode establishes SNW as a new timeline per the delayed Eugenics Wars date. In this new timeline we assume the same thing happens in Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, more or less.

However, if the new timeline has biofilters as SNW established, how can the events of Wrath of Khan be the same? This isn't something as simple as Khan changing his monologue about fleeing Earth in 1996 to 2036 or whatever. The new timeline has biofilters on all ships now, including presumably the Reliant. How can ceti eel infected Chekov and Terrell be beamed back if the transporters will now detect them as having parasites, without attempts to remove them?

 

[Yistaan]

The same reason the Gorn eggs weren't.

Ok, even if Ceti eels are undetectable by transporter biofilters, how would Khan know that they would be? He presumably had no way of field testing such a theory

 

[Mudd]

The Kid Khan episode establishes SNW as a new timeline per the delayed Eugenics Wars date. In this new timeline we assume the same thing happens in Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, more or less.

Wrong. The Khan episode simply revises the Prime universe continuity - a long-overdue fix to a silly anachronism.

In the current Prime universe, the Eugenics War takes place sometime later than now in the 21st century.

See, there's no "timeline" involved to begin with - this is a series of fictional narratives. Sometimes later versions of a story overwrite earlier versions, for a variety of reasons. It happened to Homer. Even Tolkien did a major revision of a turning point in The Hobbit. It's ridiculous to talk about such revisions as "splitting timelines" that don't exist anywhere to begin with except as list entries in some provisional chronology.

Ideally, for as long as Star Trek keeps being made they'll keep pushing near-future events into the near future. Nothing else makes sense.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The same reason the Gorn eggs weren't.

Yeah, it’s not rocket surgery.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ok, even if Ceti eels are undetectable by transporter biofilters, how would Khan know that they would be? He presumably had no way of field testing such a theory

He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

He crossed his fingers and hoped for the best.

Khan knew basics of Starfleet technology from the technical manuals he read when picked up 15 years earlier. He knew where to target Enterprise.

I would say he had a working knowledge of ships and their systems, but not command-level knowledge as in the case of the prefix codes.

 

[Yistaan]

Khan knew basics of Starfleet technology from the technical manuals he read when picked up 15 years earlier. He knew where to target Enterprise.

I would say he had a working knowledge of ships and their systems, but not command-level knowledge as in the case of the prefix codes.

We know he even read klingon proverbs