Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"
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Oh my...
If the cryoship's a-yawin', don't come a-thawin'!
8/10, a thoroughly enjoyable episode. I thought it was absurd that a character is named Noonien Singh was included and that has colored my view of the character a bit. However, Christina Chong was absolutely brilliant in this episode and they pulled off the connection well, though contrived, so I'll probably warm up to her a bit.
I'm not a big fan of Paul Wesley(?) as Kirk though. Kirk had quite a few funny moments (the revolving doors) and resourceful ones as well (the chess games), but it remains to see how well Wesley will carry the role (as I'm certain he'll appear again in a bigger role).
Liked the continuity with the Temporal Investigations.
I'm not a big fan of Paul Wesley(?) as Kirk though. Kirk had quite a few funny moments (the revolving doors) and resourceful ones as well (the chess games), but it remains to see how well Wesley will carry the role (as I'm certain he'll appear again in a bigger role).
Liked the continuity with the Temporal Investigations.
Thank you! I just re-watched that episode too! The line must've slipped past my rounded ears.
You might want to add "clean" and "reasonably sure I won't get murdered in the night" to that list based on a few places I've stayed.
Eh.
Gotta add some spice to life. Besides, I'd know good and well what I'd done.
Gotta add some spice to life. Besides, I'd know good and well what I'd done.
What was this episode about? Lana fighting demons (literally) and puts on a mask that she is this tough survivor but she is human with human needs for companionship to help her with the burdens of life, and her trauma. What Alt Kirk represented was hope and showed what could be. At the end of the day when she got back she is back to being alone with no one to share her burdens with. Lana had to suck it up, like she has had to do her entire life, alone, and had a big ugly cry at the end.
I will say that is the excellent writing and I now have empathy for Lana because she seems to be more human. That’s great character writing and the type of writing that gets people attached to these characters. Nothing happens on the show matters if we don’t care about the characters. That comes from character development like this.
The actress herself is perfect for this role and I think we saw some of her real personality in those scenes where she was connecting to Alt Kirk. We learned that Lana can smile and have some measure of happiness even if was just for a moment. Powerful stuff and say what you want to say about modern trek but they do hit it out the park on occasion.
8/10 - Because I have high standards. the whole episode is just a means to get Lana and Kirk together to show what I just talked about so those parts were meh at best but that character writing was A plus stuff.
I will say that is the excellent writing and I now have empathy for Lana because she seems to be more human. That’s great character writing and the type of writing that gets people attached to these characters. Nothing happens on the show matters if we don’t care about the characters. That comes from character development like this.
The actress herself is perfect for this role and I think we saw some of her real personality in those scenes where she was connecting to Alt Kirk. We learned that Lana can smile and have some measure of happiness even if was just for a moment. Powerful stuff and say what you want to say about modern trek but they do hit it out the park on occasion.
8/10 - Because I have high standards. the whole episode is just a means to get Lana and Kirk together to show what I just talked about so those parts were meh at best but that character writing was A plus stuff.
That was the point of the episode for is to warm up to her because she is such a hardcore character who has been through some rough stuff in the past.
I don’t think it was contrived because Lana was sexually attracted to Kirk from the start. Then on top of being physically attractive Kirk’s attributes that are attractive was shown. It wasn’t like Lana fell for him out of thin air. They showed it in steps but it wouldn’t be fun if the show told you through dialog what was going on. Though maybe they should have had Lana say something obvious out loud. I saw the writer’s intent and it can happen that quickly so it’s all good imo.
About the trauma of opening yourself up and then losing the one you came to love.
La'an. Her name is La'an. This is Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, not Smallville.
Eh? I mean, in the broadest possible definition of the term, maybe. I think her attraction to him was from the very beginning more rooted in emotion than in sex per se.
Her ovaries are cursed.
Jim Kirk was the First man to not look at her like she is unclean.
Would you date a great grand child of Mussolini?
Would you marry a great grand child of Mussolini, and take their name?
Would you make babies with a great grand child of Mussolini and give your babies the surname Mussolini?
The right wing politicians? No.
People online have pointed out that Sera's revelation that the Romulans are using advanced AI to do their time travel math for them contradicts Picard's reveal that they hate AI and don't use it. Also, Sera's photos indicate the Romulans are from the 23rd century, or use at least 23rd century ships, but it's also possible that they're from the 29th century like the Time police shown here. However, the timeline of Discovery makes it seem likely the Romulans by the 29th century should be already in the Federation AND like it so much they actively want to stay after the Burn a few hundred years later.
Basically it's not clear when these Romulans are from considering all of the above
Basically it's not clear when these Romulans are from considering all of the above
Romulans only have one belief about AI?
Their beliefs can evolve.
Hard to say when the ship came from. She showed it on purpose so she probably picked a design Kirk and La'An would know.
Sera and her group are probably from up timeline. Who knows how far. Might not be fans of Unification or Ni'var.
We already know some Romulans love AI since Admiral Jarok in 2366 told Data that "a host of Romulan cyberneticists" knew of Data's existence and would have loved to get close enough to him to study and learn about him. The anti-AI cult seen in PIC Season 1 was probably just that, the Romulan version of Vulcan Kolinahr and logic extremists or human activists like those who tried to shut down Risa in that one episode of DS9.
Just because a majority of Romulans in the 31st century supported Federation membership doesn't mean there can't be a renegade faction who are still against the Federation in the 29th century. Indeed, we know from Unification III there are Romulan insurgents fighting against the Vulcans on Ni'var in the 32nd century.
As for the AI thing, meh, not the first time we've seen a group hypocritically apply selective values when it comes to accomplishing their goals.
I mean, just look at the Federation. Outlawing genetic engineering and gene resequencing since before the Federation even existed but still running facilities like the Darwin Research Station during the TNG Era.
The following lines from the TNG S3 episode The Defector seems to indicate that the romulans were aware and creating AI:
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/158.htm
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