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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"

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There's not enough "maybe the records were lost" rationalization wiggle room in the world to make that fit with this.
That's where we must grudgingly acknowledge that this was a TV show from the 1960's. OW! IT BURNS!

Dang. I expected a light romp with a dash of fanwank. I did not expect to have my heart broken. That last scene with Chong is just 11/10. Acted the hell out of that scene.
This. All of this. It's two days later and I'm not getting over it. This is the bar to clear for the season for me. Good luck.

Oh, I also loved that Kirk died because -- for once -- somebody called his bluff! :)
I hadn't considered it that way. Wow. Pay attention Balok!

OK. When do we get our Ortegas episode?
 
I see it this way;

Enterprise-TOS-TNG (and movies 1-10)-DS9-VOY-Picard = OG Trek Timeline

Discovery-SNW-Lower Decks = Nu Trek Timeline

Star Trek 2009-Beyond = Kelvin Timeline

If we ever get Star Trek Legacy, I'm confident Matalas and Drexler (based on their comments) will utilize the 60s designs for any throwbacks. Like the USS New Jersey.

SNW being an alternate timeline from TOS, but still following the same story beats is the best of both worlds.

I've said it before, if SNW was a full-on reboot and marketed as such, the current regime would have probably genderbent half the TOS characters and completely moved away from the 60s influence. I think that would have been very divisive.

Having SNW follow canon to an extent, keeps the producers and writers in line from departing too radically from the source material.

Except it's not because so much of Lower Decks, Picard, and everything else is BUILT on continuity with the TOS-TNG timeline.

And nothing the Nu Trek timeline as you call it is any different from what ENTERPRISE did.

It was fine to speculate when Disco was in development but it's been stated over and over again and the series would make NO SENSE given all of their ties to TOS and TNG.

It seems like fans keep trying to split the timelines when they could not be more obviously connected beyond the Enterprise Bridge not having switches.
 
Some general observations:

Needless to say, I was fascinated by this episode, and not just because of the Khan connection. I’m a sucker for stories where Star Trek heroes visit “our” time: “Tomorrow is Yesterday,” “Assignment: Earth,” the whale movie, etc.

One twist I didn’t see coming because it subverted expectations: the twist that our friendly 21st century ally, “Sarah,” was actually the bad guy. I assumed that she was just the latest variation on Roberta Lincoln, Gillian Taylor, and Rain Robinson, so that big reveal completely caught me offguard — which was probably the idea.

Oh, I also loved that Kirk died because -- for once -- somebody called his bluff! :)

Temporal emphasia/time crazy?

Maybe the crazy was not so pretend?

Was Sarah sane enough to calculate a bluff?
 
FTC sues Amazon, alleging it tricked consumers into signing up for Prime

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/business/ftc-sue-amazon-prime/index.html

FTC: Why your honor, just recently Amazon released the third episode of season 2 of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds a whole 2 days earlier, only on Prime, than honest paying customers of Paramount Prime's standalone subscription service, showing yet another shady, under-handed tactic to recruit Prime customers even at this late date.

Judge: BBEEEEZZZZOOOOOSSSS!!!!! :mad:

I have to admit that it worked on me I switched my P+ account over to Amazon Prime.
 
How does that work? Lower Decks is built on referencing events from Enterprise to Voyager as if they happened in their past. We've had characters from those shows show up in Lower Decks.

Lower Decks uses the TAS visuals when showing stuff from the 23rd century.

Notice I didn't mention TAS.

Lower Decks is also an exaggerated version of...everything. Characters acting like over-the-top silly versions of themselves (Riker for example). It can easily be a spoof told from an unreliable narrator (Mariner), and we can't take those events as representations of what happened in the OG Trek Timeline.

It doesn't have to particularly fit into the OG Trek Timeline. We'll see if any future 25th century series, Legacy or whatever is coming, will reference it.
 
Notice I didn't mention TAS.

Lower Decks is also an exaggerated version of...everything. Characters acting like over-the-top silly versions of themselves (Riker for example). It can easily be a spoof told from an unreliable narrator (Mariner), and we can't take those events as representations of what happened in the OG Trek Timeline.

It doesn't have to particularly fit into the OG Trek Timeline. We'll see if any future 25th century series, Legacy or whatever is coming, will reference it.
Nah, it's way easier to believe everything is the same timeline.
 
Nah, it's way easier to believe everything is the same timeline.

Not necessarily. There's a precedence for multiple Trek timelines with the Kelvin-verse.

This Eugenics War plot-point certainly opens the doors for some possibilities. We'll see if any future showrunners make use of it.
 
Being that as it may, she could well have ended up back on Pike's ship with no one knowing who she was or where she came from.

Her time tricorder wasnt going to turn green, until she had a home to go back to.

Oh.

I get that Voyagers! Joke now.
 
I'm ready to be disagreed with.

10

10 can mean a lot of things. Ive given 10's before. This is 10,1, this is 10 where you turn into a salamander.
This is Streaming Trek's "In the Pale Moonlight". This is one of the best star trek episodes ever written, directed, scored, and acted.

Seriously, that score. And Chong needs to be considered for an Emmy.
 
Seriously? You don't put a big red car and have your camera shots highlight it over your actors unless you're doing product placement.

Maybe it was product placement, but if it was, it was poetic, though I am not sure if it was intentional. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is filmed in Mississauga Ontario, and the Dodge Challenger is built a few minutes drive away in Brampton Ontario.

Furthermore, the Doge Challenger is based on the Mercedes-Benz W211 platform.
The company that used to be called Chrysler turning this:
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into this:

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...is akin to turning this:

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into this:

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Not necessarily. There's a precedence for multiple Trek timelines with the Kelvin-verse.

This Eugenics War plot-point certainly opens the doors for some possibilities. We'll see if any future showrunners make use of it.
IF it does happen, it's not going to be Kurtzman Trek that does it.
 
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