Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x02 - "Ad Astra Per Aspera"
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No, genetic engineering should be a human only law, but canon is canon, where they called it a Federation Law in Doctor Bashir I Presume, even if the Denobulans signed up to the Federation, but we do not know if they did or not.
This is (maybe?) why it is a Federation Law... Klingon Treaty, after the augment Plague. It's nice that the Klingons are all screaming that they Remain Klingon, but they're half human, and so are the Tribbles.
So the choice was ban gene resequencing or death by batleth.
Not really a choice at all.
It's a similar stipulation to how the Romulans made the Federation forego cloaking technology.
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But Khan was not the only augment of the Eugenics Wars. He might have been the worst of them, but there were a lot of other augments that were killing people. It was mentioned they took control of over 40 nations and treated the people in them like slaves. Then those augments ended up fighting each other. "One man would have ruled eventually", Khan said.
Look at Malik and most of the other augments in the ENTERPRISE trilogy. They were another example of aggressive and belligerent people who were just fine with killing anyone who they deemed unworthy. This entire situation, by the way, also caused the augmented Klingon situation.
While the Federation did take the genetic modification law a bit too far, I can't blame their reasons for having the laws.
DS9 also mentioned other reasons why genetic enhancements were not a good idea. Worf mentions having a society of genetically enhanced people would make parents want to do the same to their children just to compete... the results could lead to a lot more people like the Jack Pack.
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That's the thing, we don't know what they do. Do they 'correct' people to ensure they fit a norm, like what Bashir's parents did to Bashir?
It's weird because on further thought, the Federation has gone out of its way to judge societies - the one that came to mind immediately was The J'naii from The Outcast and how they'd likely be banned from joining the Federation. And I can't imagine a 'civil rights' lawyer defending their right to force people to be agender, especially if they use 'conversion therapy' to force people to give up on their desire to be male or female.
They really needed just something to make the Illyrian 'cultural practice' seem more defined and understandable.
Having a political disagreement over the age of when kids, in American public schools, should know about "alternative sexual practices" is not a form of "persecution", especially when compared to certain countries that has a death penalty for being a part of the LGBTQ+ community.
As to this episode: I give it an 8, considering that, while good, the outcome was more or less telegraphed. I did like the twist that it was Una who exposed herself to Starfleet's scrutiny, in order to bring awareness as to how hypocritical the Federation can be.
you're mixing up "race" with "nationality"
Humans find a bullshit planet that will kill them if they try to live there and they spend 75 years (TNG Home Soil?) terraforming it.
Ilyerians find a buillshit planet that will kill them if they try to live there, so they spend an afternoon re-sequencing their genes until they're completely copacetic with the bullshit planet that does not want to kill them anymore.
Una can pass for human, because her community of Ilyerians re-sequenced their genes to be the most compatible with the terraformed human colony they went to co-exist with humanity on, which was designed to compliment humans above and beyond all other species.
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Oh my... I thought the last episode was awful with Spock disobeying orders and stealing the Enterprise for a person he hardly knew and which flew right in the face of "The good of the many outweighs the need of the few" but this was an insanely boring and tedious episode. Thank the Maker I started watching "The Orville" as I'm turning my back to this now.
Like the James Bond movie franchise, Star Trek on television has turned into a boring soap-opera.
1/10.
Like the James Bond movie franchise, Star Trek on television has turned into a boring soap-opera.
1/10.
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But do they use it to make sure their children have certain eye color or eliminate what their society would consider 'defects'?
Also who were the ones invited to join the Federation? The whole race? A specific colony? Una's specific colony?
First day watching Star Trek?
I wonder if "Una Chin-Riley" is a name she just made up so she could more easily pass as human...it's probably not her original Illyrian name. (I can't remember, did her parents ever address her by name in the opening scene?)
Una says that they're all sweet.
Humans are just assholes.
The Supermen didn't have superficial imaginary superiority like blonde hair, the Supermen were twice as strong and three times as smart. We don't know who started the first Eugenics war or why but I put my money on the Billionaire's doing something distasteful.
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Don’t her parents call her “Una”? And the lawyer’s cousin is named “Ivan”. “Neera” seems to be a name of Indian origin,
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My guess is it's her birth name. Given how many actual alien names on distant planets in Star Trek sound sort of or even VERY human (Jojo Krako, Septimus, Abrom, Isok, Zarabeth) I can easily buy she was born Una Chin-Riley.
Not to mention Spock, Kira, Dax, Odo, Kang, Chang…
I mean, the tyrant on Sarpeidon was named Zor KAHN. The franchise couldn't even resist cannibalizing concepts from its own original TV show and while it was still on the air. 
to be fair, there is only a finite number of syllables available and a LOT of languages and names
That theory would work if they hadn't shown ENT Illyrian makeup on a wall monitor display in Season 1. Una was looking at images of Illyrian children and some looked human like her and at least one looked like the makeup seen in ENT.