The people in charge are the greedy ones. They send their minions off to fight, who I'm sure were told they had the firepower to defeat the Klingon Ship. It just doesn't matter if they win or not to the plan.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"
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The people in charge are the greedy ones. They send their minions off to fight, who I'm sure were told they had the firepower to defeat the Klingon Ship. It just doesn't matter if they win or not to the plan.
Other than long lifespans I’m not seeing a similarity
I know hyperbole is like a second language to Trek fandom, but yeeeesh!
Because it isn't TOS yet.
That started in Season 1.
To frame the feds.
Even Nimoy Spock wasn't "Spock" in his first handful of appearances. This is roughly 2260, at bare minimum five years before "Where No Man Has Gone Before(TOS)," an episode wherein Nimoy still portrays the character with smiling and occasional expressions of emotion.
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary
violence definition 5: "Unjustified alteration of wording or sense; as, to do violence to a Scriptural text."
That's all I meant.
What's unjustified?
And hopefully Star Trek characters are not considered Scriptural in importance
as I said, a lot in this episode doesn’t make sense.
If the show pushes into TOS territory that version will rightly be ignored.
I think Spock has played before and M'Menga knows it
They've done us and the characters a service by taking one dimensional and arguably two dimensional characters and fleshed them out into something closer to real.
Jenna Mitchell, since early season one.
She seems to be a civilian scientist with some darkness in her past.
And, as said, there is no logical way it can lead into that.
Not to this level.
How? They were going to blow up the ship, how the hand phasers fit in?
It a TV show not scripture. Fiction of this nature is ever evolving, Not trapped in amber or etched in stone.
Everything about this episode felt off to me..but I can't quite put my pulse on what it was...or maybe it was just everything. The plot and characters just didn't gel with me at all this time around. The plot just wasn't very interesting...it was dull Why did La'an just contact Enterprise instead of contacting Starfleet? What did she accomplish by meeting with the leader of that group? Why did he need more phasers if the plan was already in motion? They are in a hurry to answer La'ans distress signal but spend time joking about warp expressions. The Klingon fight scenes dragged.
I'll give it a 5 and that's being generous..Maybe I'm just having a bad day but to me this is easily the worst episode of the show and one of the worst of 2017+ Trek.
I'll give it a 5 and that's being generous..Maybe I'm just having a bad day but to me this is easily the worst episode of the show and one of the worst of 2017+ Trek.
"Trapped In Amber" and "Etched In Stone" would be fantastic episode titles, though.
I believe the U.S.S. Crossfield NCC 1031 was a Glenn Class Starship.
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Glenn_class
This is the first time we've seen an actual Crossfield Class starship.
At the risk of sounding ignorant why not? Chapel clearly goes through some stuff between now and then and Spock clearly takes a more Vulcan approach. Not sure were the logic is failing, but that might be my human side talking.
What's the deal with whatever M'Benga and Chapel injected themselves with? Was that shown in season 1, because I don't remember it, and that doesn't seem like something that you should be carrying around in a regular med kit.
Also, they're just beating the crap out of Klingons, weren't any of the Klingons armed? Just stand out of hand-to-hand range and shoot.
Also, can someone really survive in the vacuum of space for a whole minute? My understanding is that you freeze solid within seconds.
Also, they're just beating the crap out of Klingons, weren't any of the Klingons armed? Just stand out of hand-to-hand range and shoot.
Also, can someone really survive in the vacuum of space for a whole minute? My understanding is that you freeze solid within seconds.
It's funny ... I liked the episode more than I didn't, but most of my problems with it are the ones that a lot of the critics of Picard season 3 had with it. A lot of the moments in the beginning felt like forced nostalgia moments.
Remember when they stole the Enterprise in Search for Spock and now here's Spock doing it? Remember Spock played a musical instrument in TOS and here's how he started doing it? Remember how each captain has to say something different when they go to warp?
And there's some weird moments here too ... like Captain America's Super-Soldier Serum exists in the Star Trek universe? The entire slow-mo sequence with M'Benga and Chapel felt like the writers got to the part of the story where they needed to write a way for the characters to contact the Enterprise, and they threw up their hands and said let's just have them Hulk out and do an action sequence.
Also, I like what Ethan Peck has done with Spock, and this isn't a criticism of him or his acting, but I just don't buy that this version of Spock is the same guy we end up with in TOS. The TOS version of Spock always felt like someone that lived in shame among Vulcans for being half-human (an "outcast" per The Final Frontier), had been taught most of his life to shun humanity, and ever so slowly realizes the value of humanity and his own humanity through his time on the Enterprise with Kirk and crew. Strange New Worlds, on the other hand, seems to be setting up that maybe it's things going bad with Chapel or Pike that puts him back into a Vulcan shell until Kirk comes along.
Remember when they stole the Enterprise in Search for Spock and now here's Spock doing it? Remember Spock played a musical instrument in TOS and here's how he started doing it? Remember how each captain has to say something different when they go to warp?
And there's some weird moments here too ... like Captain America's Super-Soldier Serum exists in the Star Trek universe? The entire slow-mo sequence with M'Benga and Chapel felt like the writers got to the part of the story where they needed to write a way for the characters to contact the Enterprise, and they threw up their hands and said let's just have them Hulk out and do an action sequence.
Also, I like what Ethan Peck has done with Spock, and this isn't a criticism of him or his acting, but I just don't buy that this version of Spock is the same guy we end up with in TOS. The TOS version of Spock always felt like someone that lived in shame among Vulcans for being half-human (an "outcast" per The Final Frontier), had been taught most of his life to shun humanity, and ever so slowly realizes the value of humanity and his own humanity through his time on the Enterprise with Kirk and crew. Strange New Worlds, on the other hand, seems to be setting up that maybe it's things going bad with Chapel or Pike that puts him back into a Vulcan shell until Kirk comes along.
@eschaton already addressed this.
The answer was no.
Why not? Spock is shown to be complex, valuing his father's opinion, but now pursuing the Starfleet path. With Pike he clearly feels a different level of freedom than he does with Kirk, or there is an experience which brings him back to logic. I don't see the conflict that many due with these two presentations, any more than my more outgoing personality in college is somehow in conflict with my current more reserved way.
That, or they've been reconfigured to become standard ships of the line now that Discovery no longer officially exists. Hence the more Miranda- or Soyuz-like appearance and now sporting cylindrical, TOS-like nacelles.
My first two trance albums.
Alan Parsons Project got wild there for a few years.