Indeed, I think radiation would be the bigger problem, no?
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"
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Indeed, I think radiation would be the bigger problem, no?
Now, now this is a prequel. The whole point is to show Spock as playful and happy and have this show unleash horrific, unspeakable trauma upon him to turn him into a self-hating, damaged, lonely mess. The ingredients are all there with Chapel about to ditch Spock for Korby, Spock about to ditch T'Pring for Chapel only to realize too late he can't compete with Korby, and Stonn waiting in the shadows.
Now, now this is a prequel. The whole point is to show Spock as playful and happy and have this show unleash horrific, unspeakable trauma upon him to turn him into a self-hating, damaged, lonely mess. The ingredients are all there with Chapel about to ditch Spock for Korby, Spock about to ditch T'Pring for Chapel only to realize too late he can't compete with Korby, and Stonn waiting in the shadows.
That is a possible direction. I prefer to just think of them as different interpretations of the same character and no more try to "reconcile" them than I try to reconcile the differences between James Earl Jones's and Denzel Washington's different versions of Troy Maxson from Fences.
Well I watched Magnificent Century and I don't believe in New York City.
Glad I'm not the only one who got major Raiders vibes from that scene!
There were Federation soldiers working with the Klingons.
am I the only who wises that the Commodore we see with April was Nogura? (Nogura was the admiral Kirk had a three minute conversation with about him regaining command of the Enterprise to confront V'Ger.)
Saw the episode, meh.
The good:
-I really like the new chief engineer and how she’s introduced (as an unlikable foe that turns out to be an unlikely ally);
-Finally we’re back to a sensible Klingon design!
-The acting is consistently good all around.
The bad:
-Most of the plot seems a tired, boring, remix of stuff we’ve seen over and over, it also lacks sense at times (so the -not again!- federation-Klingon conspirators built a replica of a Starfleet ship on a planet that changes hands each month? Also, what were the hand phasers for again?).
-some direction choices are very questionable, like those disorienting cartwheels straight out of the worst shots of discovery.
-the CGI still looks cartoonish and unconvincing
-the music is serviceable at best
-some of the dialog seems straight out of the fanfic of a 12 year old, such as the banter on the bridge.
The ugly:
-Spock couldn’t be further from the character Nimoy played, at this point he’s another character entirely.
-And he has a thing for chapel now? He gets all emotional when she enters the room? Really?
-I was rolling my eyes at the “stealing the Enterprise” bit. Done over and over and really unnecessary.
-So you can inject yourself a magic serum and become a super soldier able to overwhelm dozens of Klingon warriors (who conveniently forgot their weapons)? Right.
-I hate the moral implication that torture is acceptable and works. It isn’t and it’s proven it doesn’t. To make things worse, the Klingon warrior suddenly giving in and being totally scared (except for a moment he isn’t, except now he is again!) doesn’t make any sense at all.
All in all, probably my least favourite SNW episode, hope next ones are better.
5.
The good:
-I really like the new chief engineer and how she’s introduced (as an unlikable foe that turns out to be an unlikely ally);
-Finally we’re back to a sensible Klingon design!
-The acting is consistently good all around.
The bad:
-Most of the plot seems a tired, boring, remix of stuff we’ve seen over and over, it also lacks sense at times (so the -not again!- federation-Klingon conspirators built a replica of a Starfleet ship on a planet that changes hands each month? Also, what were the hand phasers for again?).
-some direction choices are very questionable, like those disorienting cartwheels straight out of the worst shots of discovery.
-the CGI still looks cartoonish and unconvincing
-the music is serviceable at best
-some of the dialog seems straight out of the fanfic of a 12 year old, such as the banter on the bridge.
The ugly:
-Spock couldn’t be further from the character Nimoy played, at this point he’s another character entirely.
-And he has a thing for chapel now? He gets all emotional when she enters the room? Really?
-I was rolling my eyes at the “stealing the Enterprise” bit. Done over and over and really unnecessary.
-So you can inject yourself a magic serum and become a super soldier able to overwhelm dozens of Klingon warriors (who conveniently forgot their weapons)? Right.
-I hate the moral implication that torture is acceptable and works. It isn’t and it’s proven it doesn’t. To make things worse, the Klingon warrior suddenly giving in and being totally scared (except for a moment he isn’t, except now he is again!) doesn’t make any sense at all.
All in all, probably my least favourite SNW episode, hope next ones are better.
5.
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Who said they were warriors? They're miners and organized crime enforcers and greedy middle men. There's no reason to think any of them were trained warriors or Klingon Defense Force soldiers.
Pretty good episode.
About the false flag operation: did a bunch of agents of the Broken Circle choose to die to man a fake Starfleet ship to fire upon a Klingon ship? Or did they beam off and remote pilot it, and automatic systems tried to break down the airlock door? I know they were supposedly really stupid, but they couldn't have thought their bootleg starship could destroy a Klingon warship, could they?
About the false flag operation: did a bunch of agents of the Broken Circle choose to die to man a fake Starfleet ship to fire upon a Klingon ship? Or did they beam off and remote pilot it, and automatic systems tried to break down the airlock door? I know they were supposedly really stupid, but they couldn't have thought their bootleg starship could destroy a Klingon warship, could they?
Miners not Minors. (RIP Alan Rickman)Hey where were you in 2009? Everyone knows miners are literally the most vicious and dangerous threats the Federation can possibly face!
If they don't give me seven seasons of this, I'm quitting Trek.
Ok. Still, there were dozens of them and still only two of the feds.
I think the idea was that the Klingon ship would destroy the fake federation ship and then start a war. And yes, they were suicidal.
Pelia complaining about boredom in the immediate aftermath of a devastating Klingon war seems in bad taste to me to be honest, just my opinion.
They were portrayed as greedy not suicidal. How can they profit from the upcoming war if they're not alive?
