It was the name she chose ultimately to idenify with. She didn't feel she was Annika.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"
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It was the name she chose ultimately to idenify with. She didn't feel she was Annika.
Funny how she was still on the bridge after her carry on. Funny how her second in command is her ex lover and ex junkie. Goes on and on.
The name does from a bad organization and has negative experiences attached to it. But I think it's her way of accepting who she is. She grew up as Seven and post-Borg, it was Seven that shaped her own life. It's also how she was recognized by people she cared about, the Voyager and Picard crew. Using that name doesn't necessarily mean anything negative unless someone decides so.
We’d still be living in caves if this were true.
I'm merely pointing out something ironic: she stuck with the name forced on her. In an effort to say something about dead naming, the writers weren't paying attention to other ways that naming played into injustice.
Agreed.
I mean, yes, of course she’s a fictional character and this has absolutely no bearing on anything in our lives. But to be fair, neither do warp cores and transporter buffers but Trek fans talk out the ass on those things.
Some identify with Seven. I think it’s a little bit more important than if in series 4, season 3, episode 22, they referenced a self sealing stembolt doing a job but in series 7, season 1, episode 2, they referenced a warp matrix flux capacitor doing the same thing. But there have probably been 30 page threads on something similar that are just as ridiculous. But that’s just me. To each his own.
There ultimately is a point where you can only service so many societal and personal equity based justice principles before they begin to contradict each other.
The only way around it would have been to have her claim a name that had no meaning or history to herself at all but it would also equally disrespect her established continuity as a character
Have to completely agree with you here for a change.
But I also think that's a huge issue with modern day writing. I remember reading an article easily 10 years ago after Youtube and the like were really getting going, and it was a journalist interviewing teachers, English and literature teachers to be precise. Anyway, they said that it was becoming increasingly more and more difficult for their students to get away from themselves and totally inhabit the characters that they're trying to create. To really have that kind of empathy. We live such insular lives now.... me me me stuff. And you can see that in most of the mainstream media that we're ingesting. All focused on just me. This season has all been about Picard, nothing more.
The name was forced on her but it was her choice to stick with it. And she stuck with it because the name grew to have meaning for her.
Whether a name came from good or bad circumstances. It's still about how the individual feels about their name and what they want to go by
I never said otherwise.
"I'm Seven. Just Seven."
It was a reference to a song and a joke.
She specifically tells Jack that she was "born again" on Voyager. It's not that she identified with a "slave name." Her identity is the one she found with the "family" that helped her on Voyager, and that wasn't Anaka Hansen. It was Seven of Nine.
And that connects to the overall themes of family in the season that define the relationships between all of the characters. That's the entire point of the Data-Lore scenes. Data's identity is defined by his experiences, and by his connections to the people who are his family.
Yes, yes, there are justifications.
As a member of that generation - who made "whatever" an all purpose word - I hadn't thought of it that way before, but I think you're right. Also, so many of us came from broken and/or deeply dysfunctional homes, we loved seeing characters who didn't fight with each other.
But I also think it also comes from Gene's generation, which was stoic and private to a fault. Gene had also been in WWII and had been a cop, so the longing for a hopeful and peaceful future makes a lot of sense to me.
It's written to be her choice.
Biologically, I would agree.
But 17th century humans lived comfortably with child labor, women being excluded from property rights & politics, the African slave trade, and witch trials where people were burned alive & hung for communicating with the Devil.
By the 21st century, human society evolved to reject all of that. We are light-years ahead of our 17th century cousins in terms of society, not to mention technology.
It seems silly to think that humans 300 years from now—the TNG era—wouldn't be as far ahead of us as we are now to those from over 300 years in our past.
No, not only does that not follow, but you're simply objectively wrong, here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_modernity
Humans have not changed significantly in the last 50k years, and that's a fact. You go back in time, kidnap a human baby, raise it here, and you'd never tell the difference. What you're refering to has nothing to do with any change in our genetics, but changes in technology and society.
One other point ... there are other examples in canon of people and species taking a name that was originally put upon them and making it their own.
For example, the Female Founder claims the name "Changeling" was originally used as a slur against them, which they've taken as their own as a show of strength.
But still able to relate to the past. TNG humans scoffed at us and looked down on us. They were "evolved" and better. The elitism was profound. And if that's what it means to be better then I'd rather study 300 years ago and learn rather than think myself as being better.
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