This just made me think:
Is Nemesis the only non-comedy movie ever where the antagonist was a failed plot from a non-existent episode?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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Is Nemesis the only non-comedy movie ever where the antagonist was a failed plot from a non-existent episode?
No script error here. They are back on the Enterprise 1701-D. The last time they were on that ship John-Luc Picard was their Captain not an Admiral. They're on a ship they haven't seen for nearly 30 years, so they are putting themselves back in the mindsets they had 30 years ago to make the best use of that ship.
That was on the shuttle before boarding the D though.
Again they were looking at the day getting back into that old mindset.
Your analogy is not applicable in the slightest. In the example from your workplace I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) you are talking about customers calling you by your first name which while wouldn't bother me personally I can at least understand. I worked retail for a long time and it didn't bother me when the occasional customer used my first name, but different people might have different expectations for formality. My suspicion is that you are in the minority here but I can't be sure and it probably doesn't matter much in any case.
However, Brooks's cast mates calling him by his first name is not even close to the same thing. They are colleagues. Even if he's ahead of them on the call sheet he is not their superior. There is no reasonable workplace expectation that would call SOME people Mr/Ms. so and so and not everyone unless it's like a high-powered CEO or something. For him to demand this is not reasonable and sounds like its against the norms of how how the set was operating. Even if they aren't friends with him, which is fine, it is not even close to reasonable to expect them to call him Mr. Brooks. Can you imagine working on the 7th season of DS9 doing 15 or more hour days for 9 months a year for 7 years and this guy wants you to call him Mr. Brooks? It's completely obnoxious. That they went along with it speaks to THEIR professionalism and not his. This sucks and I have a lot less respect for him. How you treat your co-workers matters. Patrick Stewart managed to figure out how to take himself seriously and not be a pretentious douche about it.
Pretty sure it was a joke meant to be taken as a joke; I don't think we're supposed to see that as an actual demotion but I guess we'll see. Also, any ship commander being called captain is a naval thing if I'm not mistaken, has this been canonically stated anywhere in Trek?
No, I have no ridiculous canon support for my off hand comment about a stupid joke. I simply assumed since they used other naval traditions this season, like the boson whistle, that a similar naval tradition would be apprapos.
I'll research further and cite my sources.
If only that terrible movie had anything close to a villain plan that made a lick of sense! At least this idea makes sense and is consistent with what had happened before. God, thinking about that movie makes me so angry...
Still.., I did find it odd how quickly he name admiral after Nemesis. If it was like 10 years later, it would have worked better for me. Taking the promotion as a way to settle down so to speak
O'Brien told Nog about calling the commanding officer 'captain' even if they were a Lt. Commander in "BEHIND THE LINES". He said it was a naval tradition, which clearly translated to Starfleet.
DAX: Are you two ever going to be finished?
NOG: Just a few more minutes, Commander.
O'BRIEN: That's Captain. It's an old naval tradition. Whoever's in command of a ship, regardless of rank, is referred to as Captain.
NOG: You mean if I had to take command, I would be called Captain too?
O'BRIEN: Cadet, by the time you took command, there'd be nobody left to call you anything.
Asking that people address you by your surname is not inherently an assertion of superiority of hierarchy, particularly if you are willing to reciprocate. It is an assertion of distance -- establishing a boundary that says, "We are not friends and we will not assume familiarity with one-another." There is nothing wrong with that as long as it is done from a position of respect for those from whom you are requiring distance.
We have no idea if this rumor is actually true. I am distinctly aware of interviews where his castmates call him "Avery," so frankly I suspect the rumor is not true. However, even if it were true, it is not necessarily rude as long as it is done in a spirit of mutual respect while requiring emotional distance, rather than from a spirit of asserting hierarchy.
I am actually in agreement with Sci.
If you want to maintain a professional distance with people, as long as you return to them what you expect from them, there is no problem with that.
Sometimes doing that actually decreases the chances of work related conflicts with others.
If you want to maintain a professional distance with people, as long as you return to them what you expect from them, there is no problem with that.
Sometimes doing that actually decreases the chances of work related conflicts with others.
... ok so side note, when did Starfleet decommission the Galaxy-class from active service? I'd figure in prime timeline actuality, the hulls should last forever much like they repurposed the Excelsior-class for nearly a century.
But I was curious if most were destroyed or damaged in the Dominion War ... or relegated to SS Galaxy of the Seas.
But I was curious if most were destroyed or damaged in the Dominion War ... or relegated to SS Galaxy of the Seas.
I'm sure there are still Galaxy-class starships out there in service, but probably a bunch were done in prematurely by the Dominion War.
Yeah, if I recall correctly, their frames were designed to last 100 years, so their absence might be rather chalked up to visually separating the Enterprise-D from the rest of the assimilated "modern" fleet. What I do find weird however is how after robust and versatile designs like the Miranda, Excelsior and Galaxy that were designed to last generations, we have an Enterprise-F that is apparently due to be decommissioned after a mere 15 years or so, while appearing to be in a perfectly good condition at the Frontier Day ceremony.
Honestly, I think it would have made more dramatic sense for Shelby's ship to have been the Enterprise-E. It would have been a lovely cameo for the hero ship of the best TNG movie, and it would have made the fate of the fleet all the more horrific, and it would have heightened the sense of coming home to the D.