Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x06 - "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach"
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It’s weird that they put these two episodes together. It doesn’t make the crew look good getting fooled twice in a row.
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Just commenting on the nature of the show. Very little follow up in episodic Trek.
Head cannon away.
I know, for better or for worse. There are lots of one-off characters whose fate I wonder about, and will likely never know.
I always do.
It's like Cheron. Did one of the two men actually survive? Did they kill each other? Does Cheron's civilization begin to rebuild post-2268? We'll probably never know.
And I'm fine with that.
Sometimes the cold, chilling and sad endings are the most appropriate in order to teach the lesson of the story.
And I'm fine with that.
Sometimes the cold, chilling and sad endings are the most appropriate in order to teach the lesson of the story.
Very true. I will add "The Outcast" and "Repentance" to that list. And "When the Bough Breaks" would have presented a much stronger message with a darker ending (and made more sense, too).
As I recall, that got covered in a novel.
My point exactly.
And maybe they eventually get shaken out of their callousness enough to finally ask for help.
I'm not so sure... while I'd love to see the Enterprise return to this world and atone for the atrocity it helped commit, I think that things were pretty well resolved at the end.
To add my two cents to a 40-page thread, I liked this episode.
Kind of amused that its ancient technology the people have no way understand of only that it needs children to be powered to keep their civilization quite literally afloat. I liked it more that she says they've spent their lives studying the machinery to figure out alternatives but right now and for the future the ascension is the only way they have.
I also liked that once you get what the ascension is, the whole parade and ceremony and pomp becomes less an honor and more of a funeral. A tribute to the sacrifice and a way for the people to not jus hide their shame but also make it clear to themselves they all know what they're doing.
I don't see the planet having much of a space presence, they're insular and afraid of being judged so any warp ships they have will be tightly controlled.
Kind of amused that its ancient technology the people have no way understand of only that it needs children to be powered to keep their civilization quite literally afloat. I liked it more that she says they've spent their lives studying the machinery to figure out alternatives but right now and for the future the ascension is the only way they have.
I also liked that once you get what the ascension is, the whole parade and ceremony and pomp becomes less an honor and more of a funeral. A tribute to the sacrifice and a way for the people to not jus hide their shame but also make it clear to themselves they all know what they're doing.
I don't see the planet having much of a space presence, they're insular and afraid of being judged so any warp ships they have will be tightly controlled.
I mean we don't hear about a lot of planets. When was the last time we heard, saw, or even talked about Tellar?
The tech to fix the planet's issue won't be found in the Federation, at least. The planet's tech was already more advanced than Federation standard or what was available on the Enterprise. Could be they're still isolationist, still doing their ascension...
The tech to fix the planet's issue won't be found in the Federation, at least. The planet's tech was already more advanced than Federation standard or what was available on the Enterprise. Could be they're still isolationist, still doing their ascension...
True, but the Federation might have had elements they didn't. Look at Aldea, in "When the Bough Breaks". They had extraordinary shield and cloaking tech, but their medical tech was vastly inferior to the Federation's: Beverly was able to cure their radiation sickness practically overnight.
Maybe the Federation team asks for permission to examine the old First Servant's corpse. This examination tells them what the machine did, how it works, and why it needs a humanoid brain in a very specific state of development. Using this information, they create an artificial version, and there you go.
Maybe the Federation team asks for permission to examine the old First Servant's corpse. This examination tells them what the machine did, how it works, and why it needs a humanoid brain in a very specific state of development. Using this information, they create an artificial version, and there you go.
Such stories are far more powerful without a resolution. Not every problem can be fixed and the “good guys” don’t always win are worth being reminded of.
Then it's not a story. A story has a problem, someone trying to fix the problem, then the problem being fixed.
Wrong. Stories do not require a resolution. Sometimes the whole point of the story is to make the individual reader/viewer/listener do a bit of mental exercise and think about possibilities. A story likely shouldn’t end on a cliffhanger with no follow through, but it doesn’t have to have a neatly tied up conclusion either. This episode didn’t “solve the problem” but it wasn’t a truncated cliffhanger either. It simply presented a situation that doesn’t have an easy solution. It’s called nuance and nuance is a feature, not a bug, in storytelling, as well as for a whole host of other things.