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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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The Queen's Borg cube seemed different to the "Artifact" cube, still in ruins and understaffed - I have a feeling there's no real Collective anymore and the Borg has split up into different "Collectives" (likely helped along by the other Queen from S2). Makes the S3 Queen seem more of a petty, bitter loner that wants to tear down the Federation.
I believe it looks like she brought what was presumably left of the entire Borg Unicomplex that we thought Janeway destroyed through the transwarp conduit.
 
Yeah, it makes no sense that a spaceframe that large and complex would be outdated after only 40 years. They'd have made it with future upgrades and refits in mind. Look at 20th century technology like aircraft (4th generation fighters like the F15, F16, and F18 are all designs from the 1970s and early 1980s and are still totally relevant today) and naval ships. You'd think by the 24th century, we'd be even better at technology re-use via upgrades.

Also- there's already precedent for it in the Star Trek universe. Klingon designs have lasted for over 100 years. The Excelsior, Oberth, and Miranda class starships are all seen in action 70-80 years after they entered service.

Sometimes I think it's kind of stupid that we never see the "hero ship" classes more. You hardly ever see a Constitution-refit, a Galaxy, Sovereign, or Defiant-class ship.
 
I in no way want to derail the thread...but this IS very scary as a parent of two pre-teen boys (9 and 11). I'm VERY fortunate that they have multiple interests (heavy into sports with baseball, basketball, football... martial arts, chess club, video editing, etc) and that they have some very good friends they've met through those activities who they actually do real social things with quite frequently.

Sometimes I think getting them into varied activities is the only way to combat that stagnation.

Or...maybe we're just lucky right now.
It's hard to say. I was in sports and was pretty bad at it. Train harder, push harder, etc. isn't necessarily the answer. People dislike you even more when they see you struggle so much to achieve things that came naturally to them. I'd argue that my time in the tennis club in high school actually made things WORSE for me socially because my classmates and particularly the women saw full well how clumsy I was and even when I trained to get better, the fact I had to train so hard to get to that point just caused them to be even more disgusted. I never got a single dance date in high school, and every woman I asked said "No", some not even very nicely. I followed the rules, accepted no means no, was a top student academically (I ended up working with 2 Physics Nobel laureates in UC Berkeley after high school) but at the end of the day...
 
It's hard to say. I was in sports and was pretty bad at it. Train harder, push harder, etc. isn't necessarily the answer. People dislike you even more when they see you struggle so much to achieve things that came naturally to them. I'd argue that my time in the tennis club in high school actually made things WORSE for me socially because my classmates and particularly the women saw full well how clumsy I was and even when I trained to get better, the fact I had to train so hard to get to that point just caused them to be even more disgusted. I never got a single dance date in high school, and every woman I asked said "No", some not even very nicely. I followed the rules, accepted no means no, was a top student academically but at the end of the day...

Honestly, coming from a college football athlete (I played D3, but still...hahaha)...it sounds to me like YOU did everything right and everything you could to get out there and get better and work on what YOU wanted...and the people around you were just total shitbags.

And as for getting rejected for dates, hey at least you had the courage and the confidence to ask. There are plenty of people who don't even get there.

Don't regret that effort. I'm sure it shows up in your life now in a positive way, even if you don't recognize it immediately!
 
With the Enterprise D coming back into action (and apparently "fully functional"), will/could it be recommissioned back into the fleet? According the TNG Technical manual, the Galaxy class ships are designed for a 100 year life span. Makes sense with all of resources going into building a starship.

I hope they don't destroy the Ent-D again. But I could see them doing it in order to give the Ent-D a better end than what happened in Generations. Certainly, going out in a blaze of glory to stop the assimilated fleet from destroying Earth would be more fitting.

Personally, I hope the Ent-D survives. Yes, they could recommission it back into the fleet with some upgrades. That would be great. They could also permanently retire it in the Fleet museum. As a legendary ship, it would certainly belong in the Fleet Museum. Both endings could be very poignant but I am partial to the ship being retired in the museum. Imagine the final scene of S3: Picard says "computer: turn off all systems" and the LCARS shut down, we see the TNG cast walking off the bridge for the very last time. We get an external shot of the Ent-D in the Fleet Museum, the external lights on the hull go off, cue TNG music, fade to black.
 
I think that Shelby, after a lifetime of studying the Borg, thought she could out-Borg them. That she would take the best of their Collective strength MO and give it to her own people, and use it to combat the evil that was ultimately studying her right back. Coupled with key advisors encouraging her on…and maybe adversaries having their own successes with salvaged Borg tech and networked systems (we need to develop AI before the Chinese develop their own)…and with Starfleet being better at routing out AI threats and hacks and whatnot after PRO….she didn’t see it until it was too late. I mean, she was a 4-5 star admiral at this point; she was probably used to successes and thinking things were different in this new normal.

Also, it was an innovative new attack. The ships or crew weren’t invaded by nano probes, the crew themselves were hacked by genetic manipulation.
 
I think that Shelby, after a lifetime of studying the Borg, thought she could out-Borg them. That she would take the best of their Collective strength MO and give it to her own people, and use it to combat the evil that was ultimately studying her right back.

Reminds me a little bit of Starfleet Academy Professor John Gill's stupidity with regard to his philosophy on Nazi Germany's approach to governance.
 
I hope they don't destroy the Ent-D again.
I highly doubt they will.
Honestly, coming from a college football athlete (I played D3, but still...hahaha)...it sounds to me like YOU did everything right and everything you could to get out there and get better and work on what YOU wanted...and the people around you were just total shitbags.

And as for getting rejected for dates, hey at least you had the courage and the confidence to ask. There are plenty of people who don't even get there.

Don't regret that effort. I'm sure it shows up in your life now in a positive way, even if you don't recognize it immediately!
Indeed. I had limited dates in high school, and nothing serious (though I wanted it to be). So, in college, I gave up. I focused on my degree, and got to work. Eventually got married and have whole new problems. Relationships, as it turns out, are not all they are cracked up to be.
 
I hope the D goes up like the biggest Roman candle ever. Geordi goes like “the antimatter tanks are completely full, when this this blows it’ll light up the system like a second sun in the sky,” and they give it a great end. All good things come to one, after all. The next next generation will just have to build their own. That’s their responsibility, not to succumb to power and despair. And this fan would like more good new Star Trek, not simply revisiting the past. When my favorite show ever TNG was on we didn’t thing this would be the apex of anything. Onward and upward.
 
Part of me thinks it might just end with them all leaving on the Enterprise D. Not as Starfleet officers, but as a family, all together again in the place they call home.
I know it probably makes no sense at all. But what if basically the Enterprise-D replaces the Eleos. Picard and Beverly (and maybe Jack) go off on their new adventures to help people beyond Starfleet using the Enterprise, with maybe Riker, Troi, and Data along for the ride.
 
I hope the D goes up like the biggest Roman candle ever. Geordi goes like “the antimatter tanks are completely full, when this this blows it’ll light up the system like a second sun in the sky,” and they give it a great end. All good things come to one, after all. The next next generation will just have to build their own. That’s their responsibility, not to succumb to power and despair. And this fan would like more good new Star Trek, not simply revisiting the past. When my favorite show ever TNG was on we didn’t thing this would be the apex of anything. Onward and upward.
An end where they all blow up and die. Classy.

Everyone who complains that New Trek is too dark would be completely justified in what they say.

I think the F will be replaced with the G (though maybe not in this series), and the D will go to the Starfleet Musuem. I was just joking around in the previous post.

Anyway, what's done is done. Now that they have the D, and Geordi said he spent 20 years restoring it, blowing it up would be dumb. You don't restore a car and then crash it into a building. That's insane. It doesn't have to go back into active service, but it can sit next to the A and the NX-01 at the Starfleet Museum.
 
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