That looks like a ton of fun for the actors. I dig the narrative aspect, but my first thought while watching the fight play out was 'I want to do that!'
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"
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That looks like a ton of fun for the actors. I dig the narrative aspect, but my first thought while watching the fight play out was 'I want to do that!'
Additional thought I forgot to add earlier: Skeleton crew or not, it was too easy to take over Titan.
One of my issues with the changelings in DS9 was their (lack of) motive which - as far as I could tell / as far as I watched - basically amounted to "the solids are mean to us 'cause we're different, so let's kill them all". Vadic's motive is just a variation on that theme and as repulsive as what was done to them was, it doesn't work for me. To each their own, as ever.
The jack / Sidney / baddie scene was brilliant. The choreography involved must have been challenging - and fun - for the actors. Great stuff.
One of my issues with the changelings in DS9 was their (lack of) motive which - as far as I could tell / as far as I watched - basically amounted to "the solids are mean to us 'cause we're different, so let's kill them all". Vadic's motive is just a variation on that theme and as repulsive as what was done to them was, it doesn't work for me. To each their own, as ever.
The jack / Sidney / baddie scene was brilliant. The choreography involved must have been challenging - and fun - for the actors. Great stuff.
Absolutely this. Really, really hope we find out he's okay. Seeing the real Tuvok would be even better.
I hope so. But I want the real Janeway. Not a cartoon, not a changeling - the real deal. But I won't hold my breath.
Fan sites like this are nice. You know where the spoilers are and you can avoid them all the way into the next evening if you want. It is respectful to the fans even when they are on a site devoted to the topic. The thing that sucks is news feeds and other sites that want clicks. These assholes publish spoiler images in the morning, and they pollute people's feed because google, etc. knows you are interested in Picard because they know you visit Trek fan sites. I bet Tuvok pictures will be in some people's google feeds by noon. I saw Ro in mine before 4PM from a Tor post that went live before noon. I just find that ignorant and disrespectful of fans. Basically they are using the popularity of the show to get eyes while spoiling people who need to wait until the evening of the day it drops to watch it.
If/When? Janeway actually appears, a significant amount of fans will find that out via spoiler images fed to them from these data-driven, curated feeds because some people feel they need to exploit fans by spoiling some major imagery.
exactly
(underlined my point) And so quickly this time! Either great SNAP! acting, or good editing XD
We don't know if these synths that are organic and seem perfectly human have DNA or not, but they must have something very similar.
Data and Lore are active personalities, he literally has a split brain according to the display, while Soong and B4 are just memories, IIRC. Lal was absorbed into Data years before at the end of that episode.
So he’s on the Titan as well.Tuvok's desk has a Voyager model, a Kal-toh game, his meditation candle, and a Kir'Shara model
At the start of the episode, the whispers Jack hears in the turbo lift are multiple voices saying "connect us."
When Jack was with Sidney La Forge in the passageway fighting a changling, his eyes glowed red, he connected with Sidney, first telepathically telling her what to do, then controlling Ens. La Forge movements. She moved as he did.
Ugh. I’m trying to wrap my head around my own feelings on this one. It started out really promising with a notTuvok cameo and with a minimal amount of fan service actually telling a story. But the episode was, I don’t know, off.
First, the wheels just spun in this episode. So much pontification. The action in this episode should have taken ten minutes. Not 45.
Spending a fair chunk of that time dealing with reviving Data? UGH. God, I loved Data as a character and while I wasn’t a fan of how he went down in Nemesis, I accepted that character’s fate 20 years ago. And while I really questioned why in Picard season 1 we needed to go back and give Data a goodbye, it was heartfelt and final. But Star Trek’s gotta Star Trek and not let a character have a meaningful death. Yeah, it’s not technically Data but it is. And there are those out there who will say it’s not a TNG reunion without Data. And of course, he ain’t gonna get sacrificed again this time.
Above, someone mentioned that this would be better if this somehow involved Julian Bashir as opposed to Beverly and that is definitely a big part of my issues. And I still don’t understand why this story, in general, makes sense for the TNG crew to be such a major part of. At this point, it really doesn’t. It is so ingrained in the very (pardon the pun) DNA of DS9, that this should be their adventure. Not that of the former Enterprise crew. And the absolute lack of characters from that series (save Worf of course) is a real problem for me.
Also not a fan of the Jack developments here. So he’s a superhero and can read and control minds. Yay?
And I don’t love how Shaw’s basically been relegated to a bit part. I really have enjoyed him in the first five episodes but I’m not really sure the point of keeping him around.
After all of that, I will say that I enjoyed the Picard/Crusher scenes. Jeri Ryan continues to be great. Ed Speelers is doing a phenomenal job (even if I’m meh on his recent super power discovery). As much as I didn’t love the Data part, LeVar Burton brought it in his monologue on being better because of Data. And Amanda Plummer is a ton of fun as Vadic and her backstory is tragic (just still, ya know, not really seeing why this had to be the TNG crew involved in it.)
And just tell us what’s going on with Jack. That cliffhanger was so over the top and forced, it wasn’t funny.
I don’t know, guys. This one wasn’t great. That’s two in a row for me. 5/10.
First, the wheels just spun in this episode. So much pontification. The action in this episode should have taken ten minutes. Not 45.
Spending a fair chunk of that time dealing with reviving Data? UGH. God, I loved Data as a character and while I wasn’t a fan of how he went down in Nemesis, I accepted that character’s fate 20 years ago. And while I really questioned why in Picard season 1 we needed to go back and give Data a goodbye, it was heartfelt and final. But Star Trek’s gotta Star Trek and not let a character have a meaningful death. Yeah, it’s not technically Data but it is. And there are those out there who will say it’s not a TNG reunion without Data. And of course, he ain’t gonna get sacrificed again this time.
Above, someone mentioned that this would be better if this somehow involved Julian Bashir as opposed to Beverly and that is definitely a big part of my issues. And I still don’t understand why this story, in general, makes sense for the TNG crew to be such a major part of. At this point, it really doesn’t. It is so ingrained in the very (pardon the pun) DNA of DS9, that this should be their adventure. Not that of the former Enterprise crew. And the absolute lack of characters from that series (save Worf of course) is a real problem for me.
Also not a fan of the Jack developments here. So he’s a superhero and can read and control minds. Yay?
And I don’t love how Shaw’s basically been relegated to a bit part. I really have enjoyed him in the first five episodes but I’m not really sure the point of keeping him around.
After all of that, I will say that I enjoyed the Picard/Crusher scenes. Jeri Ryan continues to be great. Ed Speelers is doing a phenomenal job (even if I’m meh on his recent super power discovery). As much as I didn’t love the Data part, LeVar Burton brought it in his monologue on being better because of Data. And Amanda Plummer is a ton of fun as Vadic and her backstory is tragic (just still, ya know, not really seeing why this had to be the TNG crew involved in it.)
And just tell us what’s going on with Jack. That cliffhanger was so over the top and forced, it wasn’t funny.
I don’t know, guys. This one wasn’t great. That’s two in a row for me. 5/10.
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Just effin' wow! There was a mention or two of Ro making an appearance, but I hadn't heard a single peep about Tuvok...There he is
The opening tune is the one Barrash tried to play on the trombone!
real or otherwise
I don't know about this one. It wasn't bad, but it didn't really get me excited either. I really had high hopes for a DS9 regular to show up, instead we got Tuvok, who is not Tuvok.
I don't mind slower episodes, but at this point in the story it doesn't really make much sense...
Hopefully episode 8 will be better, I think it will.
I don't mind slower episodes, but at this point in the story it doesn't really make much sense...
Hopefully episode 8 will be better, I think it will.
"Years ago, Data asked me to let him go. To die in peace"
Years ago... Sounds like more than 2(?) years.
Also, Chin'toka scrapyard
Basically where they hauled the pieces of a thousand broken starships.
Years ago... Sounds like more than 2(?) years.
Also, Chin'toka scrapyard
Basically where they hauled the pieces of a thousand broken starships.Totally agree, this episode was built up so much and yet all we learn is a bit of Vadic's backstory with WHY she hates the federation, but nothing that actually connects the event to now and why only now she is going rogue. We found out nothing about the floating head boss and see no more than we did in the trailer, we see a little more about Jack's ability and get a few crumbs about what it could be and get a potential reason of why they needed Picard's body but the reason given was very lame and something that they did not need his body for when his DNA would have done (something I am sure is on file)
I left feeling that the story did not really advance and I felt quite cheated at how little happened overall compared to the well paced episodes so far.
3 episodes left to tie this up and we still do not know what the plan to destroy the federation is nor who is behind it and why.
I remember Frakes said a while back he was in every episode, but only had a tiny role in one of them. I guess that's this one.
I was going to say I liked Data enquiring about the Scimitar, nice nod to the last thing he would remember without having to go through the full plot of Nemesis, but then I remembered that Data downloaded his memories into B4 before they arrived at Romulus. Oops!
Maybe there remained a wireless link between them constantly updating Data's memories in B4 until he jumped off the ship.
I was going to say I liked Data enquiring about the Scimitar, nice nod to the last thing he would remember without having to go through the full plot of Nemesis, but then I remembered that Data downloaded his memories into B4 before they arrived at Romulus. Oops!
Maybe there remained a wireless link between them constantly updating Data's memories in B4 until he jumped off the ship.
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Yeah, I caught as well. Only because I’m one of the dozens out there who likes Nemesis and has seen it multiple times. I’ve even got the TNG 4K movie collection coming in the mail today.I remember Frakes said a while back he was in every episode, but only had a tiny role in one of them. I guess that's this one.
I was going to say I liked Data enquiring about the Scimitar, nice nod to the last thing he would remember without having to go through the full plot of Nemesis, but then I remembered that Data downloaded his memories into B4 before they arrived at Romulus. Oops!
Maybe there remained a wireless link between them constantly updating Data's memories in B4 until he jumped off the ship.
My somewhat tepid reaction to last week's followed by an uptick in excitement this week is shaping up to be uncommon. It seems the opposite is more likely for folks. Oh well! Hopefully, episode eight unites us all again. :P
Nice! Congrats.
Nice! Congrats.
Just watched. Man, I have loved this season but I'm getting weary of a lack of answers. Granted there were reveals this week - specifically the motivation of Vadic's faction but I think we saw that one coming.
It seems Irrumodic Syndrome is a Trojan horse to get borg and / or changeling "stuff" into JLP and whatever it was got passed on to Jack. When JLP got his new body whatever Irrumodic Syndrome he was carrying was shed with his corpse.
I think I give this one a 7 and it gets that primarily for the Tuvok & Data / Lore scenes.
It seems Irrumodic Syndrome is a Trojan horse to get borg and / or changeling "stuff" into JLP and whatever it was got passed on to Jack. When JLP got his new body whatever Irrumodic Syndrome he was carrying was shed with his corpse.
I think I give this one a 7 and it gets that primarily for the Tuvok & Data / Lore scenes.
That's why 7 and 8 should be watched together, they are basically a two parter. I think the pacing of this season works better when it is watched like a single movie.
