Do you have a source for this? I'm wondering if the original context of the remark can perhaps point us toward something. If it is Shatner or even the guy from SNW playing Kirk I'll be impressed at the ability to keep it quiet.
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Do you have a source for this? I'm wondering if the original context of the remark can perhaps point us toward something. If it is Shatner or even the guy from SNW playing Kirk I'll be impressed at the ability to keep it quiet.
It depends on what he does/how it is presented.
Another theory after seeing Vadic gun down several of her fellows.
Vadic and her "Changelings" are actually genetically engineered fakes, something S31 made to try to fool the Founders ala triple agents, they were never welcomed by the link and have struck out on their own seeking to create problems for the Founders but also kill the Federation who created them?
They maybe have some degree of Borg tech going on in their body and will obviously have some connection to Picard. They are all connected mentally and just want to be either proper Changelings or live as proper solids, but are stuck in this halfway house of the meatsack shapeshifters we see?
Vadic and her "Changelings" are actually genetically engineered fakes, something S31 made to try to fool the Founders ala triple agents, they were never welcomed by the link and have struck out on their own seeking to create problems for the Founders but also kill the Federation who created them?
They maybe have some degree of Borg tech going on in their body and will obviously have some connection to Picard. They are all connected mentally and just want to be either proper Changelings or live as proper solids, but are stuck in this halfway house of the meatsack shapeshifters we see?
and someone big enough in the episode to get an interview.
Why didn't Odo just say that then instead of calling them renegade changelings who wanted revenge for the Dominion war?
In the clip for next week's episode, Disembodied Head Guy that Vadic is talking to sounds a lot like Armus.
I'm now reading Troi
Something Short Android Body
Short is shorter than Body
soooo... Tasha Yar?
Who else has a 3 letter last name?
Would be an odd choice, given he never manifested a face, and looked like an oil slick. He could hardly comment on the Changelings form.
**raises hand**
but they could use Pine or Mr. No-Charisma from SNW if they wanted to go there.
But as much as I would like to see the Generations ending undone, I just can’t see them shooting THAT bullet in TNG’s last ride.
A Sisko makes more sense. Either Jake or Ben.
It is very, very hard for me to comprehend how anyone claiming to be a Star Trek fan would NOT want to see that….. Shatner’s return to the franchise has been on my wishlist since 1994..!
The last two letters of the unidentified part look like "AN" to me.I'm now reading Troi
I was wondering if it might be the name of one of the planets with androids in TOS. Exo-III would be the most obvious shout-out, but it doesn't look like that.
I'm not a particularly huge TOS fan. TNG came out when I was 8, though I had seen a lot of TOS (and TAS) before that, but he didn't really leave any particular impact upon me. If anything, I was more of a Spock stan than anything. I appreciate a lot of the individual episodes of TOS, but I don't think Shatner's portrayal of Kirk is what sold it. The appeal is more in that Trek itself was protean at that time; so unformed that it was basically a vehicle for telling lots of different SF stories depending upon the week, many of which were quite compelling.
I really, really dislike the fellating of him; turning him into the great hero of the Federation; that happened in the later movies and shows. The best aspect of TOS to me by far is that we never get the idea that Kirk is anything more than a captain of one of 12 constellation-class ships. He's got an important role, but he's not the Great Hero, he just happens to be the one we are following for this week while he tries to save his ship or some isolated colony somewhere. It made the Trekverse seem to be this big unexplored world in a way the later shows mostly failed at. When everyone who's onscreen knows about everything that happened onscreen in the past it makes the world feel smaller, cheaper.
I do think he got a shitty sendoff in Generations - TUC was the perfect ending for his character - but I really dislike the idea of perpetually retconning characters deaths to give them a better sendoff (we're on the third Data, as the show noted). Also Shatner has shown terrible instincts regarding the character, and while he's entertaining as a human being in a "magnificent bastard" sort of way, I don't see why we should feed his gargantuan ego in his twilight years.
So, Matalas has said there are three villains this season. One is clearly Vadic, the second is I'm guessing weird skull face dude. The question is, who is the third villain, since this episode disposed of the idea that Moriarty or Lore were involved in any real way (Lore will likely cause issues as he gets control of Data's body, but I can't see full-on conspiring with the Changelings).
I suppose there are two possibilities. One is that the final villain hasn't been seen yet. The other is they're hiding in plain sight as part of the cast.
I suppose there are two possibilities. One is that the final villain hasn't been seen yet. The other is they're hiding in plain sight as part of the cast.
Terry Matalas is directing the last two episodes, so if they did have any major surprises then he could have kept it in a very tight circle. There wasn't even a small hint of Ro in the run up to it either though. Personally, I find it very hard to believe they could bring back Kirk out of the blue like that and be able to effectively pull it off. I think it was just an easter egg. Same with Sisko. There is too much going on with those characters to think they could do them effectively.
I need to know what' in Hangar bay 12, although i think i know
I think we all know thanks to Levar Burton
I was living my life just fine yesterday and then i went to bed with the thought that we might see James Kirk in command of the Enterprise-A in the near future.
That wasn't true at all. Advanced reviewers got the first six episodes, and several made comments about a "recurring character from 90s Trek" appearing in the 5th episode who would have a remarkable, touching conversation with Picard. Then a week before the episode dropped the blurb came out, which talked about a "prodigal crewmember" which basically clinched it as being Ro.
What we know:
- The next episode is called Dominion
- The showrunners explicitly only released the first six because something big happens in episode 7
- There's a cameo which is so big that there will be a Ready Room interview next week.
- After the Ro drop, someone on Twitter in production said a cameo "even more amazing" is coming up, that he couldn't believe it was kept under wraps.
- Matalas has said he sees this season as being the final sendoff to all of "90's Trek", not just TNG.
Kirk is definitely my favorite 90s Trek character.
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