The Terry Matalas as Star Trek Showrunner Petition

[Mudd]

So TrekBBS is a more effective metric of 'wider-appeal' than social media?

Neither matter that much.

New subscriber figures and available money matter.

Matalas has a good a shot as anyone at heading up a new series. Be reminded that while fans expressed enthusiasm for a Pike series, no one other than the popular actors portraying the characters was hired because of fan support or petition nonsense - not a showrunner, not an artist, writer, nobody. There are a constellation of factors that go into staffing a TV series, and no one behind the scenes is a rock star.

 

[TerryTrek]

Neither matter that much.

New subscriber figures and available money matter.

Matalas has a good a shot as anyone at heading up a new series. Be reminded that while fans expressed enthusiasm for a Pike series, no one other than the popular actors portraying the character was hired because of fan support or petition nonsense - not a showrunner, not an artist, writer, nobody. There are a constellation of factors that go into staffing a TV series, and no one behind the scenes is a rock star.

The petition for SNW was the start. It showed that there was a fan interest in Pike and his 1701 specifically, removed from Discovery. The cast and creatives acknowledged the fan support for getting the process started.

"You asked... we listened... it's happening" "Without you, this wouldn't be happening, so thank you so much"

It's worth a shot again, depending on how Picard S3 is received.

It's a promising start, with a month and a half to go till the end.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

When I talk the best I do not use it to bash the work of others.

Is the act of stating something is the best not an implicit statement that alternatives are somehow lesser?

Indeed. Much of the petition leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and the reactions and laughing at fans with concerns does little to help impress upon me the accepting atmosphere of this new vision of Trek.

I hope you don't feel I'm laughing at you.

 

[fireproof78]

Is the act of stating something is the best not an implicit statement that alternatives are somehow lesser?

It is the framing of the discussion around Terry and is work currently. This is not you specifically.

I hope you don't feel I'm laughing at you.

I do not.

 

[Tuskin38]

The petition for SNW was the start.

I doubt they cared.

 

[TerryTrek]

I doubt they cared.

That's your take on it.

I'm going by the statements from those involved; cast, creatives, about the fan support for a Pike Spinoff.

Still too soon to say that will happen again for Picard S3, but there's potential.

 

[gvn2fly]

He was only showrunner for the first couple episodes of Season 2. He handed it off the Akiva to focus on Season 3 pre-production.

He came on board in early 2020. Season 2 started filming about a year later....he wasn't involved in the day to day showrunning duties after production of a few episodes so season 3 could be ready to go after season 2, but he had a major hand in developing the season. He has himself stated both the Q and time travel plots were from him. He also wrote the premiere so its likely a lot of the borg stuff came from him also. I've really only read Akiva credited for the mother/suicide angle of the plot.

I think one reason people are liking this season is because its the TNG movie/farewell we never got. The moment Terry were to stray into another original plot that may not be exactly like legacy Trek the knives would be out for him. He's already being attacked for doing new things with characters - like the Riker/Picard conflict. I've seen people argue with him and the production designer for not having carpet on the ships like the 90s shows did. I've read enough from that segment of the fanbase over the years to see that what many of them want is exactly a 90s era show...that looks and is written like a 90s era show...AND without anything they perceive as "woke" It's easy to excuse the faults of those 90s shows when were saw them as kids and maybe rewatched them many times over the years (or maybe are just going from memories as seems to be the case when people complain about stuff from the new shows but conveniently forget the legacy shows did it too).

 

[fireproof78]

or maybe are just going from memories as seems to be the case when people complain about stuff from the new shows but conveniently forget the legacy shows did it too).

Closer to this.

 

[Sketcher]

I feel like social media comments/likes/tweets from fans and general audience did far more for Strange New Worlds getting off the ground than a petition ever could.

 

[Weyoun 251]

This feels up there with the calls in the football community for a new manager after 4 of 5 games to get a long term contract.

You often get it at clubs where a club legend gets parachuted in and has the new manager bounce but, next thing you know, they have spunked £150m up a wall on transfers and are in a relegation dogfight the next season.

The language used too is so over zealous and self felating that it is hard to take seriously - like if a parody of a Trekkie petition was written that would be it or if Sheldon Cooper wrote it.

Lets just see out the season first (although it is a fucking good season so far) and not forget what many others have said about how he was involved in S2 and that today's messiah can easily be tomorrow's pariah

 

[Campe]

I think theres two major factors that will decide any new series:

1. Money and right now streamers are cutting back on series because honestly, shows are expensive and perhaps the streamers aren’t doing quite as well as they want to.
2. Viewership. We don’t get numbers regularly from Paramount+. Also see #1.

One could make the argument that social media impressions also are a factor. Probably more secondary, honestly. But one could also put a petition in that factor.

 

[Mudd]

The petition for SNW was the start. It showed that there was a fan interest in Pike and his 1701 specifically, removed from Discovery.

Whatever. Even if the secondhand PR poohbah is entirely accurate, you missed or ignored the main point.

There have, of course, been previous change.org petitions in which fans directed Paramount+ to make decisions about producers and series off-camera staff based on "popular demand:"



Surely, businesspeople must take this sort of thing seriously...

 

[EnderAKH]

Blessed be the body Star Trek, and health to all its parts.

Season 2 was not the way of Terry, season 1 and Discovery opposed the will of Terry.

We all know one another - in Terry.

Your TV show will be absorbed. Its individuality will merge into the unity of good, and in its submergence into the common being of the body, you will find contentment, fulfillment. You will experience the absolute good.

 

[Mr Awe]

Lol no. You're the one who addressed me personally there.

And yet, you're the one who also misread what I wrote, and complained about it erroneously.

 

[James Cole]

That's your take on it.

I'm going by the statements from those involved; cast, creatives, about the fan support for a Pike Spinoff.

Still too soon to say that will happen again for Picard S3, but there's potential.

Christopher Monfette was just on the Popcast, and welcomes support for the PICARD S3 team getting to continue in the 25th century.

 

[fireproof78]

This just in: writer wishes to continue making money. Experts weigh in at 11 on this earth shattering revelation. Some content may not be appropriate for all viewers.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Apparently Terry Matalas will be named Gene RoddenTerry and he will be declared the second coming of the Great Bird by a council of Star Treks Truest Fans in the Sacred Paramount Backlot

 

[fireproof78]

Apparently Terry Matalas will be named Gene RoddenTerry

Legitimately laughed out loud on this one. Well done!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Christopher Monfette was just on the Popcast, and welcomes support for the PICARD S3 team getting to continue in the 25th century.

He's the guy who co-wrote the season finale of Season 2. Isn't he to be cast out, shunned and declared an apostate according to the Tenets of St Terry of M'Talas (praise unto him) for his involvement with that abomination?

 

[Campe]

He is not of the body.