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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x04 - "No Win Scenario"

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I too was a little confused about Riker's Crisis and Nepenthe. It feels like this season is trying to forget about the first season other than Picard being a synthetic. I really liked Frake's acting in this scene though, but he was happier in Season 1.

They probably are trying to forget. This season is far superior to anything the first two seasons gave us.
 
There is a discontinuity when we talk about Picard's relationship to Starfleet.

2396 he said in that bar that Starfleet is his only family.

2399 he told Rios when they first met aboard the La Sirena that he separated himself from Starfleet long ago in every possible way.

Per Memory Alpha, he offered his resignation in 2385. So yeah, that doesn’t quite work.

I too was a little confused about Riker's Crisis and Nepenthe. It feels like this season is trying to forget about the first season other than Picard being a synthetic. I really liked Frake's acting in this scene though, but he was happier in Season 1.

Grief is a bitch. You think you’ve kicked it, comes back. Sometimes debilitatingly.
 
They probably are trying to forget. This season is far superior to anything the first two seasons gave us.
Hard disagree, we got some compelling new characters in the past 2 seasons, even Elnor. They then basically forgot Soji, and more or less killed off Rios and Jurati. Only Shaw is a standout new character, and he's basically a retread of Sisko and Jellico combined. Beverly's character has been distorted beyond all recognition and one episode of her doing TNG stuff doesn't change that.
 
10/10! :techman: What a phenomenal finale to Act 1.

This episode had me smiling ear to ear.

These are the type of character interactions and dialogue I've been longing for Star Trek to have for a long while.

Riker, Picard, Jack and Shaw were awesome in this one. Probably one of the first times I've seen all the male characters on a Nu Trek series have agency. Shaw is totally Dr House in Starfleet, cane and all. Seven and Bev were great as well.

That scene where they encountered the alien creatures being born was probably the most 'Star Trek' scene we've had since the Voyager days. Really felt like 90s Trek again.

All the scenes came across as earned. It wasn't just empty sentiment for the sake of it. The flashback scene with young Jack and Picard.. was actually heartbreaking. And they built up to it in a very natural way.

Star Trek is in good hands if this creative team is kept on :cool:
 
The Nepenthe episode works fine. They're putting on a brave face because Picard is in trouble and needs them to be strong for him.

Immediately after Riker was right out the door and back to Starfleet - it was probably a useful excuse for him.
Indeed. It works perfectly well and the only ones forgetting Season 1 and 2 are people who are not interested in them.
Grief is a bitch. You think you’ve kicked it, comes back. Sometimes debilitatingly.
Indeed. I've watched it tear it's way through otherwise strong people, and resurface like a multi-headed hydra after years.

It is dangerous to too quickly dismiss the effects of grief.
 
Solid 9, borderline 10 from me.

The pot/cannibus thing bothered me not one whit. Though the resigoo kind of did. That was just made up. Hard to believe every Star Fleet vessel does not have Changeling DNA on file, somewhere, given the scope of the war.

But very good all around. They all remembered they were StarFleet and acted like it. Hooray! An episode with an a tual resolution. Hooray! Good character epusode. Hooray!
 
The pot/cannibus thing bothered me not one whit. Though the resigoo kind of did. That was just made up. Hard to believe every Star Fleet vessel does not have Changeling DNA on file, somewhere, given the scope of the war.
Unless I miss something it also didn't really go anywhere. Seven tries to find his bucket, they find it, the lab is understaffed to run a scan, the changeling attacks and then the whole business of looking for him via scan is dropped, not to mention the changeling wasn't immediately vaporized on the spot (they went down fast enough in the season premiere) leading to the plot being dragged out just for the La Forgery scene.
 
Hard disagree, we got some compelling new characters in the past 2 seasons, even Elnor. They then basically forgot Soji, and more or less killed off Rios and Jurati. Only Shaw is a standout new character, and he's basically a retread of Sisko and Jellico combined. Beverly's character has been distorted beyond all recognition and one episode of her doing TNG stuff doesn't change that.

Elnor reminded me of a Elrond jr.. yuck.
 
Though the resigoo kind of did. That was just made up. Hard to believe every Star Fleet vessel does not have Changeling DNA on file, somewhere, given the scope of the war.
I took that to mean each specific Changeling's DNA. We know standard scans can't detect them, but perhaps they can be found in the sensors know precisely what to look for on a submolecular level.
 
I will say that I think they need to write Vadic better, or at least smarter.

If her mission was to capture Jack alive, which it seemingly is, it probably wasn’t the greatest idea to let the Titan sink into the gravity well in the first place. Maybe she was relying on Picard’s trademark ability to escape death traps, but it seems like an awfully high risk to take.

That’s just a minor nitpick though.
 
After his encounter with the Founders, Odo stopped using the bucket and got himself assigned to personal quarters; he would instead revert to his gelatinous state and shapeshift freely throughout the room, allowing himself to spread across the floor when he needed to become gelatinous. Odo kept the bucket with him "as a reminder of how [he] used to be." -- https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Odo's_bucket

The writers forgot that a bucket was an Odo thing, not a Founder thing, and even Odo himself gave it up after a while.
 
The writers should be tarred and feathered! I want their heads on pikes outsides of CBS and Paramount with a sign that says "Trek writers, ye be warned!"
 
The writers forgot that a bucket was an Odo thing, not a Founder thing, and even Odo himself gave it up after a while.
DS9 is my favourite series and the one I've watched the most, and even I forgot that. People make mistakes.
 
Fantastic episode, a well deserved 9.

Very tired, so I’ll just leave a couple of comments…

I really liked the retcon of Voyager’s holodeck “independent power source”: it almost makes sense now.

Not convinced in the changeling’s pot looking just like Odo’s…It always fit DS9’s style, so I guessed it was a cardassian bucket, pretty odd to see it here…And did the changeling smuggle it on board or what? Wouldn’t replicating a normal bucket do?

I felt it was coming, but when Picard takes command is a big emotional moment.

This show is in dire need of some lights, though…I had brightness to maximum (it’s usually around 3/4 for other shows) and it was still really dark!
 
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