If the show continued to be profitable for Paramount, I'm sure it would've continued for more seasons. Whether it is good or bad is subjective.
Discovery ending with Season 5
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If the show continued to be profitable for Paramount, I'm sure it would've continued for more seasons. Whether it is good or bad is subjective.
That may happen, but not for the reasons you're implying. There's no reason why any streaming service can't produce series on a regular, yearly basis just as broadcast shows typically do. Bosch on Amazon is one example - they cranked out seven seasons in seven calendar years, with a new season coming out pretty much every April I believe. And Discovery was pretty regular at first too.
Tell me about it. Frankly, I only liked Seasons One and Two. But the fact that it managed to last five seasons - especially a streaming series that is not "The Crown" - is a miracle.
That sounds like "The Original Series" to me, except the majority of the series was told from the perspectives of Kirk, Spock and McCoy. That series rarely focused on the other characters, except for the occasional scene.
This is a fair comparison. In TOS we pretty much always were introduced to stories from the frame of reference of the crew - mostly Kirk/Spock/McCoy. There are examples (like Devil In The Dark) where we get teaser scenes without the main characters, introducing us to the problem of the week before the crew knows about it, but they are few and far between. For the most part, we are firmly planted over their shoulders.
5 seasons in this environment is well, what's not well is that it got cancelled after the fact. So it's a bit of a mixed bag I think.
I'm happy about this show and STP ending. There was a glut of Star Trek shows during the 90's each series with dwindling viewers. Too much and quality clearly suffered then and now.
Pair it down to 2 shows, SNW for live action and Prodigy for family friendly animation. That's enough. Both of these seem to be much more well received than STD and STP and have more of a chance to connect with non-Star Trek people. No surprise both are generally more episodic with overall season storylines slowly developing.
Develop other stuff in the background. I suspect other series might get ~3 seasons given costs and viewer attention. Any more and that's lucky.
We're not gonna see 'seven seasons' anymore so five seasons of STD is quite respectable especially for a show that was divisive among fans and in this very different entertainment media landscape. I realize TNG set that seven seasons bar but that was almost 30 years ago.
Pair it down to 2 shows, SNW for live action and Prodigy for family friendly animation. That's enough. Both of these seem to be much more well received than STD and STP and have more of a chance to connect with non-Star Trek people. No surprise both are generally more episodic with overall season storylines slowly developing.
Develop other stuff in the background. I suspect other series might get ~3 seasons given costs and viewer attention. Any more and that's lucky.
We're not gonna see 'seven seasons' anymore so five seasons of STD is quite respectable especially for a show that was divisive among fans and in this very different entertainment media landscape. I realize TNG set that seven seasons bar but that was almost 30 years ago.
I've been all wrapped up in the Picard forum recently and somehow totally overlooked this.
I don't always like DSC, but when I do then I really do like it. I think it suffered from being conceptually kicked from post to post conceptually over its first three seasons most of all.
Say what you like about it though, I think it's the hardest Trek to pin down. Season by season it is doing something different each time.
I hope it goes out well. I think it's been a grand experiment. A great cast. Uniformly great. Some of the biggest ideas in Star Trek ever and some of the best characters.
I have to get on with watching Season 4.
I think that this perfectly sums up my feelings.
I don't always like DSC, but when I do then I really do like it. I think it suffered from being conceptually kicked from post to post conceptually over its first three seasons most of all.
Say what you like about it though, I think it's the hardest Trek to pin down. Season by season it is doing something different each time.
I hope it goes out well. I think it's been a grand experiment. A great cast. Uniformly great. Some of the biggest ideas in Star Trek ever and some of the best characters.
I have to get on with watching Season 4.
I think that this perfectly sums up my feelings.
That's a good question. I'm guessing they now have to do reshoots to give it more of a conclusion rather than it being just another season. That will take time to write up, approve, and shoot the scenes with whatever setting, background graphics, special effects needed plus just managing with actors and staff schedules.
2024 does seem waaaay out there but considering the work they have to do it gives them ample time.
I'm also thinking they are trying to stretch it out to hang on to viewers. Maybe you're a STD fan....but maybe you'll watch STLD while you wait. Something like that.
I'm certain that's part of the equation.
I have the impression we WOULD have already had Section 31 in production if not for COVID-19 and the wrench that threw into the mix. The Short Treks were also a casualty of COVID-19.
I think the plan was to have two Live Action Trek series in production at the Canadian studios.
PICARD was exclusively filmed in L.A. (making it more expensive by far even with the tax credits) because that was part of the deal made to get Patrick Stewart to do it - he lives in L.A. now and didn't want to have to travel far or leave his home for months to do the show, and they knew from day one the series would be at most 3 seasons because that was also the amount of seasons Stewart agreed to.
The whole COVID-19 situation added a whole new (and again expensive) layer (with the way 'Production pods' worked); as well as a logistical issue because an actor couldn't just run between sets anymore. If you were in a Pod, you were there sequestered for the entire production period, etc. so I'm sure scheduling was a nightmare; and with Michelle Yeoh's 'star' in demand and on the rise since 'Crazy Rich Asians' and now with 'Everything, Everywhere All At Once' (two great films BTW) - the scheduling and Pod situation screwed over what plans they may have had to start Section 31 post Discovery Season 3; and they pivoted to concentrating on getting Strange New Worlds going as I bet it was easier to schedule and ramp up.
Not that I'm complaining as I'm a huge TOS fan so SNW is EXACTLY the type of Star Trek I want; even though I am also a big fan of Michelle Yeoh too, and LOVED her in Discovery Seasons 1 - 3, and not to mention all the Asian Cinema DVDs I have she's in.
But yeah, with her star on the rise again, and Paramount+ (and all the major Streaming Services now really looking hard at the cost/content/profit ratio; I think the only reason Section 31 WOULDN'T be the next Star Trek Live Action would be because Michelle Yeoh (even though she says she'd still like to do it) is now priced beyond their range, OR they can't work out the scheduling of her to do the show in a reasonable timeframe.
If you're looking to make money, having a very bankable and high-profile star for your series whatever it is brings in the buzz which translates to subs and cashflow - so if she's willing, they can afford it, and can schedule it getting Michelle Yeoh to headline a Star Trek series is probably paramount for the suits... (Pun intended
)If they can't get Michelle Yeoh, then yeah, most likely one of the other 24th century legacy based ideas will go forward. Yes, they are contracting a bit, but I still think Paramount+ wants 20 live action episodes per year; so two such series in Production in their Canadian studio.
But, I guess we'll know in a 6 months what and where they plan to take the future of the Star Trek franchise, if they continue the STAR TREK Day media event/promotion in September.
They're definitely stretching out what they have. They aren't renewing anything or announcing new shows at the moment. Star Trek isn't going away but it looks like they are taking a pause while they figure out what do next. That might even be a good thing, in the long run.
Strange New Worlds is a likely to get season 3, and a Picard spin off is probably at 50/50. Section 31 still has a chance. Hard to speak for the animated shows, which have a lot of different factors I can't really speak for.
More than likely. Season 3 has already started filming.
Lower Decks will almost certainly get five seasons. I wouldn't be too shocked if it ended up with seven seasons, giving it seventy episodes like Rick and Morty is contracted for. Prodigy, being aimed specifically at a younger audience will have its ending timed with the point the target audience is expected to "grow out of it."
Where did you hear SNW is filming a third season?
No one should be a fan of Sexually Transmitted Diseases.
Okay, just double checked and it's only in pre-production at the moment, with filming scheduled to begin in May.
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Season 3 Confirmed, Filming Schedule Revealed [Exclusive] | Midgard Times (moviesr.net)
I appreciate the link!
SNW season 3 is news to me.
I think Prodigy is a bit of an odd ball because Nickelodeon will probably have some say as to how long it runs.
Since it isn't ofticial, SNW S3 is news to everybody - and nobody. I'm feeling pretty good about that source, though, as does The Wormhole (clearly). But I suppose there is no reason to assume this is legit if you'd prefer to remain cautious.
I made this point some time ago in another thread and got roasted for it but that's just how it goes. There's attention on her, awards, and that tends to lead to very different movie offers she may have never had before. Between working for say Spielberg or Star Trek? Yeah...no brainer.
What I hope they don't do is build a show around her just being there once in a while but selling it as if she was the main star. That would be too "bait and switch" for me.
It doesn't prove it because correlation does not equal causality.
If S3 of PIC was terrible, and featured the original cast, I think it would still probably be disliked just like S1 and S2 were.
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