Spoilers Season 3 wild speculation

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Dr Helen Noel, May 15, 2022.

  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2019
    Location:
    SoCal
    I was wondering if the Shrike display has Cardie writing, but I'm still not sure. It looks different.
     
  2. EJD1984

    EJD1984 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    Just a thought on Lore (or Data-Lore combo) looking "Old": What if the way he had been in storage his exterior "skin" had been exposed to some form of radiation that is causing it to degrade.

    This could be a genius plot mechanism so that at the end of Picard, the exo-skin would have to be replaced - Leaving the character open for recasting. *There were similar discussion during the script writing of Nemesis for Data and recasting.
     
  3. Anduinel

    Anduinel Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2020
    There would be so very many falsified logs. XD
     
  4. urbandk

    urbandk Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Location:
    DFW, Texas
    New theory: big bad is Robert Smith from the Cure and his disintegration weapon. Giveaway was the episode title "seventeen seconds"

    Lost in a nebula, all alone

    [​IMG]
     
    Oso Blanco and Commander Troi like this.
  5. Paul755

    Paul755 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2018
    Location:
    USA
    I could see Raffi becoming part of the Titan crew but XO is a big time reach.

    I have a feeling when all is said and done Shaw will still be Captain of the Titan with Commander Hansen as his number one. And we’ll actually like Shaw.

    maybe Lore has a built in “aging” program like his and Data’s “Mother”.
     
    Commander Troi likes this.
  6. Commander Troi

    Commander Troi Geek Grrl Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2021
    Location:
    Phoenix AZ
    Oh, how wonderful: he's One of Us!

    ::applause!::
     
    cal888 and urbandk like this.
  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Journeying onwards
    Best outcome.
     
  8. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    Kirk was given Enterprise when he was a CADET.

    Why make Seven jump through a ton of hoops?
     
  9. EJD1984

    EJD1984 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    I don't think so. In Data Lore it was stated that the two were identical except for some programming differences.
     
  10. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Different universe.

    Data can age, it was stated in the episode with his mother that they have the same ability to age. So it's possible Lore has it as well.
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2023
    Commander Troi likes this.
  11. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    You still haven't answered my question.

    Kirk was given the Enterprise when he was a cadet. Why make Seven jump through a ton of hoops?
     
  12. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    One is a cinematic movie written by someone who doesn't understand Star Trek or the military.

    Kirk in the Prime Timeline didn't go from Cadet to Captain. No one has made an extreme jump like that in Star Trek outside of that movie.
     
    Commander Troi and Danja like this.
  13. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    Prime Kirk started as a Lieutenant.

    Also Kirk:

    Seven is being punished for things the franchise celebrates in Kirk.
     
  14. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    We don't know that for sure. He could have been an ensign. It just hasn't been said.

    Seven has already beat his record anyways from going from civilian to Commander in less than a year. Why does she need another boost? Let her spend a few years as a commander.
     
  15. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    Kirk did not have eighteen years of military experience behind him.
     
  16. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    And Seven doesn't have the starfleet command experience to be a Captain yet.
     
  17. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    And Lieutenant Kirk did?

    I have faith in Seven. If Michael Burnham can go from being court martialed for mutiny to being named Captain of Discovery, Seven can be Captain of Titan.
     
    Commander Troi likes this.
  18. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Kirk had been a Starfleet officer for 12 years before becoming Captain of the Enterprise.

    Seven has neve been a Starfleet officer before now. Even when working on Voyager she was constantly disobeying orders, talking back, doing things that would get a normal officer reprimanded or even kicked out.

    She needs a few more years under her belt before she can be a Captain.
     
  19. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    Twelve years a lieutenant?

    We make fun of Harry Kim for being an ensign for seven years.
     
  20. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    He could have been promoted to Lieutenant Commander and so on at some point off screen, we just haven't been told that story yet.