Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?
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Stop trying to reason with them. There are more useful ways to waste your time.
Of course it is. All onscreen Trek is canonical. Even the bits you don’t like. It’s not all the same continuity, but that’s a separate issue. And before undertaking a massive plotting of “four quadrant Trek” it would be a good idea to use the proper terminology.
I absolutely despise the modern style of filmmaking. I seriously think that is my biggest issue with Picard in any season, beyond the plot or the characters or anything else. And I realize that no one in Hollywood is going to listen to me and that the style is unlikely to change until there's another industry-wide shift. But it still drives me nuts. I hate the dark look of everything. I hate everything being bathed in blues. I hate it looking like no one has invented the 60 watt light bulb. I don't like the style of the camera moves or the edits. I don't like so much being filmed handheld. Etc.
Terry Matalas recently tweeted out a "behind the scenes" photo of Stewart and Frakes on the shuttle set. It was just a photo taken in normal lighting. And I thought it looked SO much better than the way the set was lit for the actual show.
Anyway, the plot of season 3 and the return of the TNG characters is probably going to be more to my liking than seasons 1 and 2. I thought season 1 was garbage. I thought season 2 was passable and fun but with problems. And I'm totally open to them playing the nostalgia card and getting the gang back together. But as others have said, it will take more than one episode to judge that for sure.
Terry Matalas recently tweeted out a "behind the scenes" photo of Stewart and Frakes on the shuttle set. It was just a photo taken in normal lighting. And I thought it looked SO much better than the way the set was lit for the actual show.
Anyway, the plot of season 3 and the return of the TNG characters is probably going to be more to my liking than seasons 1 and 2. I thought season 1 was garbage. I thought season 2 was passable and fun but with problems. And I'm totally open to them playing the nostalgia card and getting the gang back together. But as others have said, it will take more than one episode to judge that for sure.
Is the lighting really a "modern" problem though? I mean, GEN used the TNG sets, but it was notably much, much more darkly lit than the show.
Right, and Matalas is absolutely approaching this as his ode to Trek movies, so it makes sense.
FWIW, SNW is a well-lit show overall. I don't even find Discovery all that poorly lit in its later seasons. So it's hardly universal for modern Trek.
That's what's exciting about the #terrytrek campaign and the potential series that could follow up PICARD. Terry working with people like Dave Blass and Doug Drexler. The next generation to the Berman era.
Nothing can be taken for granted, but I haven't been this optimistic about Star Trek since 2005. Hoping enough alienated people come back... that the season get's a lot of exposure on social media... and Paramount+ then gaining more subs and wanting to follow it up...
The first step was receiving many positive reviews, and that has happened.
You cannot reduce art and entertainment to some mathematical formula.
Terry Matalas is going to work for Disney.
He is going to make a children's TV show for them.
https://deadline.com/2022/12/disney...ranchise-bryce-dallas-howard-cast-1235195193/
Speaking about canonicity:
What Enterprise, according to canon, was destroyed in "The Search for Spock" over the Genesis planet?
How does the Short Trek "Calypso" line up with canon?
So far it's just a pilot. And he could have more than one project going at a time, especially with short episode orders.
Just fine, thank you.
Trekyards has a live stream touching on this. Terry Matalas is in the chat...
Is it a show produced by Paramount? If so it lines up fine.
The one from “The Search for Spock” and “Ephraim and Dot”.
Are these supposed to be hard questions?
I know this seems to be an incredibly hard concept for some people to grasp: canon does not equal continuity.
I'm pretty sure half of all Trek arguments would be gone if people would only grasp this point.
Nah. Who the hell am I kidding? There wouldn't be fewer arguments...just different ones.
Sometimes significantly less. Deep Space Nine was on every level a deconstruction of that entire premise. Discovery and Picard are very much its creative descendants for being more skeptical in their approaches towards Roddenberrian Utopianism.
I think Deep Space Nine was a very significant rupture.
I mean, people used to say the same thing about Enterprise. There are always plot devices to rationalize apparent discontinuities. Plus, y'know, maybe at the sixty-year mark we need to start giving suspension of disbelief a bigger role.
I think there's something to your analysis here, but I would suggest that your terminology should be revised. Instead of canonocity, I would suggest a binary of tighter continuity/looser continuity; instead of revisionism, I would suggest traditional paradigm/experimental paradigm.
Under this schema, I think Deep Space Nine would be in the tighter continuity/experimental paradigm quadrant. Next Generation and Voyager would be in the tighter continuity/traditional paradigm quadrant, while Enterprise would be in the looser continuity/traditional paradigm quadrant, and TOS would be in the looser continuity/experimental paradigm quadrant. (I would put TOS in the experimental paradigm side of the binary because, well, TOS experimented with its episode genres a lot more than Next Generation, Voyager, or Enterprise did.)
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