Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x13 - "All the World's a Stage"
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I'm guessing the shuttle was caught by a wormhole or tossed across space by an ancient device or something. If the Enterprise was that close to the planet, they would've found Garrovick when he didn't come back.
I don't think we're outright abandoning the Protostar. They still need it for a home, supplies etc. I think we're talking about separating themselves from it, like into a shuttle, to make contact. There will be some kind of scenes where they try to avoid the Dauntless so they don't destroy it and the Dauntless' crew thinking they are chasing criminals.
Like others, I enjoyed that the Enterprizians are only trying to emulate Starfleet's ideals and are not over crazy. A lot of the loopholes of how Garrovick got there, how they can work all the controls, how they know the Enterprise crew could have been explained with some throwaway lines. It kind of irked me, but the story was strong enough that I could ignore that.
Like others, I enjoyed that the Enterprizians are only trying to emulate Starfleet's ideals and are not over crazy. A lot of the loopholes of how Garrovick got there, how they can work all the controls, how they know the Enterprise crew could have been explained with some throwaway lines. It kind of irked me, but the story was strong enough that I could ignore that.
On the off chance that Discovery - or some other show to be set later in the Prime timeline - were to revisit this species, I'd hope that they would make a point of preserving some of their "retro" cultural styling.
For example: it's shown over in Lower Decks that the Vulcans maintain their own ships, as well as serving in Starfleet. Who is to say that this world would not one day operate its own "Star-Flight" - complete with TOS-esque ships, uniforms, and control system configurations (or "desktop themes", as they might call them over on the TARDIS) - as a "planetary" fleet, while still being a part of the "Fed'ration"?
Also, given how much importance they put into the Galileo's salvaged data records, one could say that they strive to "Live (the) Logs, and Proper(ly)"...
Indeed, perhaps some future Enderprizians might be named after the Protostar's crew?
For example: it's shown over in Lower Decks that the Vulcans maintain their own ships, as well as serving in Starfleet. Who is to say that this world would not one day operate its own "Star-Flight" - complete with TOS-esque ships, uniforms, and control system configurations (or "desktop themes", as they might call them over on the TARDIS) - as a "planetary" fleet, while still being a part of the "Fed'ration"?
Also, given how much importance they put into the Galileo's salvaged data records, one could say that they strive to "Live (the) Logs, and Proper(ly)"...
Indeed, perhaps some future Enderprizians might be named after the Protostar's crew?
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I don’t understand the complaints that there are “too many call-backs” in the show. First, the episodes work just fine whether you understand the references or not, which is NOT the case with LD, for example, where the jokes fall flat and are completely meaningless if you don’t have a deep understanding of Star Trek (which, btw, is the one element of LD I consistently appreciate, so that’s not a complaint). Second, the idea of the more egregious call-backs isn’t to delight fans and make us all squee in delight (again, see LD), but it is to create curiosity in younger fans who may want to explore the franchise further. I know my two kids are now asking all kinds of questions about Janeway and Chakotay, for example, so it would be a simple matter to get them engaged with VOY at this point.
I get a feeling sometimes that the people who grate against “call backs” get frustrated when those are TOS-centric. I’d suspect if the call backs were more TNG era centered, there would be less irritation. I don’t know…just a weird hunch…
This is a really brilliant little show, with tons of heart and smart writing. I don’t know how many kids actually watch it, but I know my family really enjoys it and I’m grateful for that.
As for this episode, brilliantly done, cute, fun, massively entertaining. 10/10 (my first such rating for this series).
I get a feeling sometimes that the people who grate against “call backs” get frustrated when those are TOS-centric. I’d suspect if the call backs were more TNG era centered, there would be less irritation. I don’t know…just a weird hunch…
This is a really brilliant little show, with tons of heart and smart writing. I don’t know how many kids actually watch it, but I know my family really enjoys it and I’m grateful for that.
As for this episode, brilliantly done, cute, fun, massively entertaining. 10/10 (my first such rating for this series).
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What a terrific episode. The episodes where we find out that a culture has been contaminated are always interesting, and I'm often curious to see how they were affected, because while I get the Prime Directive, I generally dislike how it's usually applied. In this case, things clearly worked out for the better.
I also like that the first impression of the Enterprisians is that they're a silly, backwards species emulating something they don't understand, only to find out they're clearly very intelligent, resourceful, compassionate, and courageous. They're not emulating because they're incapable of intelligence, but because they recognize a beacon of hope, and a culture they want for themselves.
Our friends are growing so fast, their hearts are so big, and I love the message of this show so very much. I can't wait to see where they go next.
I also can't wait to see what's going on with Murph!
Laugh out loud lines:
Zero: Because of all this interference I can't determine the cause."
Jankom: "Cause it's evil, that's why. Cause it's... eevvviiiilll!"
I also like that the first impression of the Enterprisians is that they're a silly, backwards species emulating something they don't understand, only to find out they're clearly very intelligent, resourceful, compassionate, and courageous. They're not emulating because they're incapable of intelligence, but because they recognize a beacon of hope, and a culture they want for themselves.
Our friends are growing so fast, their hearts are so big, and I love the message of this show so very much. I can't wait to see where they go next.
I also can't wait to see what's going on with Murph!
Laugh out loud lines:
Zero: Because of all this interference I can't determine the cause."
Jankom: "Cause it's evil, that's why. Cause it's... eevvviiiilll!"
Cute episode. Nice nostalgia, and it still stands on its own as a quirky "away team beams down to peculiar society" episode you'd see on TOS or TNG.
Never considered the show could have a life beyond the Protostar. I think it's with us for the rest of the season but maybe there will be a different setting for season 2.
Never considered the show could have a life beyond the Protostar. I think it's with us for the rest of the season but maybe there will be a different setting for season 2.
Interview with episode writer Aaron Waltke: https://trekmovie.com/2022/11/11/in...ts-galileos-fate-and-the-spirit-of-starfleet/
His mention that the Romulan star empire is relatively near makes me add a Romulan vessel as possible candidate to have picked up Frex. Though the Dauntless is supposed to follow its warp signal/trail, which makes me think it may rather be Okona and lead to the ice planet from the trailer.
His mention that the Romulan star empire is relatively near makes me add a Romulan vessel as possible candidate to have picked up Frex. Though the Dauntless is supposed to follow its warp signal/trail, which makes me think it may rather be Okona and lead to the ice planet from the trailer.
Nothing we haven't seen before, but I enjoyed this one. Big Thor vibes with the theatre shows.
That was 100% George Takei, right?
That was 100% George Takei, right?
No, it was Eric Bauza.
"My my!"
All of the TOS nods were great but I had to rewind when they showed the Enderprizians doing a reenactment of the Kirk v Gorn fight. Hilarious!
Wouldn't have the right "feels". Not everything is about continuity.
If one were to ask which aesthetic is canon between the two (the TOS aesthetic and the Disco/SNW aesthetic) would it be OK to say that BOTH aesthetics are canon and it just simply comes down to real life writers/directors personal preferences of which aesthetic to use for their Star Trek show?
Yes. that is a great answer.
Yes
What’s odd about this episode is it means Kirk lost ANOTHER Red Shirt, broke the Prime Directive AGAIN, and only needed a violation of time travel or an evil computer to hit his Enterprise bingo.
Both of which could have happened in whatever offscreen adventure marooned Garrovick.
Both of which could have happened in whatever offscreen adventure marooned Garrovick.
My canon answer is that the Enterprise under Pike will be retrofitted for Kirk.
"Look at how advanced it is! The latest in Starfleet switches and buttons!"
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