Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Jeff Kaplan and Ian Springer are writing the FF script. Apparently they’ve been involved for Matt Shakman was. https://deadline.com/2022/09/fantastic-four-jeff-kaplan-ian-springer-marvel-studios-1235123893/

 

Theirs would be a hollow excuse; remember, many of the anti-black Captain America / hate Brie Larson / generally subversive types love to claim "Hollywood" knows nothing about the comic source in favor of woke-ism, yet this self-proclaimed pack of comic book experts should know who Sabra is...or use that service some identify as Google.

Nope--they cannot do that, and they do not care to. Their vision of Marvel is so intrinsically tied to their white male power / image fantasies (usually leaning on rich, weapon-covered Iron Man and Rogers version of Cap) that any character outside of said fantasy is "wrong" / a "Diversity Hire" / "not the real ___________" (see: The Critical Drinker's acidic rant against Mackie as the black Captain America) / "not true to the comics", etc. You might as well sit back and expect that kind of commentary, because it will always flood social media with every new MCU character who does not fit into that aforementioned white male power / image fantasies.

 

Yeah, those folks are just pathetic.

 

I heard a rumor that the issue of the Sokovia Accords will be addressed in "She-Hulk: Attorney-at-Law". Does this mean Marvel Films and Disney might finally get rid of the Accords? I hope so. I feel that its creation was one of the biggest missteps made by the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

Oh OK.

Yeah, you bring up a good point.
The thing that's especially ridiculous about their attitude towards the diversity in the movies, is that diversity has been a big part of the comics, going practically all back to the beginning. For a long time Marvel was meant to represent the world outside your window, and I hate to break it to those people, but when I look outside my window, I see a lot more types of people than just white guys.

 

I get your point but it does depend where your window is:

Where I lived a year ago:
White: 90.56%
Two or more races: 3.94%
Other race: 1.57%
Black or African American: 1.39%
Asian: 1.30%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.77%
Native American: 0.46%

Where I live now:
White: 60.87%
Black or African American: 23.37%
Two or more races: 8.12%
Asian: 4.72%
Other race: 2.18%
Native American: 0.71%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.04%

 

I don't care where my window is. I like variety.

 

Sure, but it's clearly meant as more of a general statement about trying to bring more of the real world into their comics.
And to be fair, I just checked and the statistics of my hometown aren't that different, but I still see a fair amount of diversity when I'm out and about.

 

It doesn't say "The neighborhood outside your window," it says "The world outside your window." As in, the whole world, from local to national to international, which is why Marvel stories featured stories about current events and at least implicitly referenced real political leaders.

Also, the point is that it's not just one person's window. The reason for increasing character diversity is to reflect the audience's diversity -- to recognize that the audience consists of people from diverse ethnic groups and genders and trying not to make them feel left out. White readers might have had a mostly white population outside their window, while black readers might have lived in an area with an overwhelmingly black population. So it's not just one window, it's every reader's window.

 

Fair enough, I don't want to knock the push for representation and diversity just that people may have different ideas of what that means.

 

Which is why it's important to listen to different people's ideas, rather than limiting oneself to one's own. Which is beyond the capability of the idiots complaining about Sabra or black Ariel or whatever.

 

She'll give him a Pepsi and the entire conflict will be solved.

 

Toys potentially spoil costumes once again, this time Ironheart.

 

If that's legit, it's not bad.

 

Did she join the Bat Family as the new Red Hood?

 

So apparently Namor is a

Spoiler: Wakanda Forever spoilers

mutant.

https://www.joblo.com/black-panther-2-tenoch-huerta/

 

As expected.

 

Not saying it isn't the case but I notice at no point is there an actual quote attributed.

 

Is that really worth a spoiler tag? I mean, his comics fans always knew that.

 

Many MCU fans aren't that well-versed in the comics. MCU fans are international, and not all lovers of the movies come from countries where everyone reads all the comics. Hell, most of them aren't even available outside the USA. And domestically not everyone reads the comis.
This was new to me.