Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    20.5%
  2. A

    30.5%
  3. A-

    13.9%
  4. B+

    7.9%
  5. B

    13.2%
  6. B-

    2.6%
  7. C+

    2.0%
  8. C

    3.3%
  9. C-

    2.6%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0.7%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    2.6%
  1. Jedman67

    Jedman67 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Wasn't that Rule 34?
     
  2. Evil Headhunter

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    No, that's "War is good for business."

    Or is that your point? :lol:
     
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  3. Jedman67

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    I was thinking of the other Rule 34, but I"ll allow it :D
     
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  4. Anwar

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    The complaints about this Israeli Superhero in Captain America 4 is a bit pathetic too. She's been around for 40 years, and only NOW are people complaining?
     
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  5. Vincent van Ghoul

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    There's an Israeli Superhero and I'm just now finding out about it!?

    *goes to look for Captain Israel action figures*
     
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  6. Candy Consumer

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    Haas looks to be perfectly cast as Sabra. The toxic fans only amuse me now. They long ago jumped the shark with their vitriol, but they still keep circling back for more.
     
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  7. JD

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    I hate to defend them, but to be fair the character has never been in a movie or TV show before, and that's probably all those people pay attention to.
     
  8. M'rk son of Mogh

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    I mostly like that all of these obscure characters keep upping the price on the comics in my collection that I'll never sell! :lol:

    Both her AND Leader started out as Hulk antagonists, fitting in a way that they're appearing together. Though in a Cap movie, but still, pretty cool just to see 'em.
     
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  9. Mr. Adventure

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    Now they just need to introduce John Palestine to balance things out.
     
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  10. JD

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    That's interesting. Were they in the any of the same comics?
     
  11. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Not to my knowledge, no. She hasn't been used a lot. Only 3 or 4 times in the Hulk that I can recall off-hand.
     
  12. Captaindemotion

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    Theirs would be a hollow excuse; remember, many of the anti-black Captain America / hate Brie Larson / generally subversive types love to claim "Hollywood" knows nothing about the comic source in favor of woke-ism, yet this self-proclaimed pack of comic book experts should know who Sabra is...or use that service some identify as Google.

    Nope--they cannot do that, and they do not care to. Their vision of Marvel is so intrinsically tied to their white male power / image fantasies (usually leaning on rich, weapon-covered Iron Man and Rogers version of Cap) that any character outside of said fantasy is "wrong" / a "Diversity Hire" / "not the real ___________" (see: The Critical Drinker's acidic rant against Mackie as the black Captain America) / "not true to the comics", etc. You might as well sit back and expect that kind of commentary, because it will always flood social media with every new MCU character who does not fit into that aforementioned white male power / image fantasies.
     
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  14. Commander Troi

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    Yeah, those folks are just pathetic. :mad:
     
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  15. Dee1891

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    I heard a rumor that the issue of the Sokovia Accords will be addressed in "She-Hulk: Attorney-at-Law". Does this mean Marvel Films and Disney might finally get rid of the Accords? I hope so. I feel that its creation was one of the biggest missteps made by the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
     
  16. JD

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    Oh OK.
    Yeah, you bring up a good point.
    The thing that's especially ridiculous about their attitude towards the diversity in the movies, is that diversity has been a big part of the comics, going practically all back to the beginning. For a long time Marvel was meant to represent the world outside your window, and I hate to break it to those people, but when I look outside my window, I see a lot more types of people than just white guys.
     
  17. Mr. Adventure

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    I get your point but it does depend where your window is:

    Where I lived a year ago:
    White: 90.56%
    Two or more races: 3.94%
    Other race: 1.57%
    Black or African American: 1.39%
    Asian: 1.30%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.77%
    Native American: 0.46%

    Where I live now:
    White: 60.87%
    Black or African American: 23.37%
    Two or more races: 8.12%
    Asian: 4.72%
    Other race: 2.18%
    Native American: 0.71%
    Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.04%
     
  18. Vincent van Ghoul

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    I don't care where my window is. I like variety.
     
  19. JD

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    Sure, but it's clearly meant as more of a general statement about trying to bring more of the real world into their comics.
    And to be fair, I just checked and the statistics of my hometown aren't that different, but I still see a fair amount of diversity when I'm out and about.
     
  20. Christopher

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    It doesn't say "The neighborhood outside your window," it says "The world outside your window." As in, the whole world, from local to national to international, which is why Marvel stories featured stories about current events and at least implicitly referenced real political leaders.

    Also, the point is that it's not just one person's window. The reason for increasing character diversity is to reflect the audience's diversity -- to recognize that the audience consists of people from diverse ethnic groups and genders and trying not to make them feel left out. White readers might have had a mostly white population outside their window, while black readers might have lived in an area with an overwhelmingly black population. So it's not just one window, it's every reader's window.