Simon Pegg Calls Out 'Star Wars' For Having Most 'Toxic' Fandom—While Praising 'Star Trek' Fans

Ever hear anyone in Star Wars fandom ever complain about Billy Dee Williams or JEJ?

 

There is a difference between complaining and abuse and threats. Hell, Ewoks were considered horrible by many fans I knew but that antipathy was not directed at the actors.

 

What Best and Tran (and Ingram!) experienced were unequivocally not "complaints."

I wasn't alive at the time but I would be shocked Williams and Jones didn't experienced similar racism for their roles in the films, just in a different manner since there was no Internet.

 

Absolutely.

Jones's involvement wasn't publicly revealed until he was credited in ROTJ. I'm not aware that he ever received any pushback.

 

Ah, there's a bit of history I wasn't aware of. Thanks for that insight.

 

The anger resulting from the Jar Jar character was widespread. If Best was harassed it was because of this, not because a black man got a job. There were other black actors in the same film and no one had a problem with them at all.

 

Fans often have a hard time separating the artist from the art (if Jar Jar can be called "art"). It's a great shame that some short-sighted skid-marks hacked on Best for something he was not responsible for creating. The responsibility for that abomination lay squarely with Lucas.

 

Well disney up until recently and with the exception of rogue one kept turning out shit. So yeah people got upset.

 

I agree with Pegg.

There's a reason why the term "the fandom menace" exists in connection to certain elements of the Star Wars fan commnity, whereas I've never once come across any equivalent descriptors as applied to the Trek fan community.

The Trek fan community isn't completely free of toxicity, but the level of said toxicity is not anywhere close to the level of toxicity that exists within certain parts of the Star Wars fan community.

 

"Fandom Menace" is a term which applies to toxic fans of any franchise, and I have seen it applied to Star Trek's toxic fandom. On this forum, in fact. Do a search of the term, you'll see.

 

I have only ever seen/heard it used in the context of Star Wars, myself, but I've got no reason to doubt you.

 

Ever heard of the Browncoats? Now THOSE guys...

 

Yup. Definitely saw it especially with Discovery and the ridiculous complaints over Burnham.

 

That's an opinion many would disagree with.

 

Indeed, and just such sweeping proclamations, gatekeeping, faux factionalization, and insisting on dying on certain hills is kind of the core problem with the fandom right now.

 

Yeah. Rogue One wasn’t that great.

 

I kind of liked it, actually.

 

I think Rogue One is the second best film. Period.

 

It was better than I felt it had much right to be. But, I don't like it that much.

 

I've heard of complaints about toxic Trek fans, and I've complained about them, myself. But I've only heard the term "Fandom Menace" being applied to Star Wars fans.