Dune Part 2 2023 (24, 25, 26...)

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  1. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Admiral Admiral

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    Who cares? Seriously, let's not do Scorsese-MCU all over again. The guy is entitled to have an opinion, no need to either attack the man and his work, or jump to his side to defend his opinion. It's why these entertainment journalists ask famous directors and actors these kind of questions, to generate discort which generates clicks.

    I bet they hate the fact Tarantino praised the new Top Gun instead of trashing it. They could only do the one headline, and barely anybody even clicked on it.
     
  2. Shaka Zulu

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    Will we also be seeing her husband, Count Hasmir Fenring?
     
  3. FPAlpha

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    Would be awesome if Villeneuve writes him as the almost Kwisatz Haderach like in the books and one of the few people who could actually take Paul in a fight at the height of his powers. I always liked that scene in the books at the end.
     
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  4. wayoung

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  6. Shaka Zulu

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    This probably means that the next Dune movie might get released by Columbia or Paramount (the latter happening would be ironic since there was to be a Dune movie made by Paramount a short while ago [there's also a piece of preliminary artwork floating around that has a nifty Dune logo and the Paramount logo.]) I downloaded it once and had it as wallpaper on my computer for a while: if I can find it, I'll post it here.
     
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  7. wayoung

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    No, the next one is still part of the WB deal. Messiah could potentially be distributed by someone else.

    Of course, the whole connected universe plan with the ongoing HBO TV series is also a complication.
     
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  8. wayoung

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    The first movie won the Hugo for Best Dramatic Presentation, long form
     
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  10. DigificWriter

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    I'd been wondering if the TV show was still happening, so it's nice to get some news on that score.
     
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  11. The Nth Doctor

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    Oooo...I love both Emily Watson and Shirley Henderson! I think Watson is especially well-suited to play a Bene Gesserit sister.
     
  12. Starbreaker

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    I thought this was dead in the water. Looks like we're getting the origin of the Sisterhood, which I didn't expect.
     
  13. wayoung

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    I'm disappointed that it sounds like they will be following the BH & KJA books afterall. I mean, I had expected it, and it seemed like that was part of the deal with the rights (THP had wanted the movie to be based ont heir books, not the OG, so a tv series on their works and the OG as the movie seemed like the compromise) but I was still hoping it might be an original creation. There had been some talk that it was supposed to be completely original at one point.
     
  14. JD

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    It's nice to finally get some real news on the show.
     
  15. FPAlpha

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    Agree - the prequel books were atrocious when compared to the original books. It was like fine dining vs. a McDonald's menu ( you can eat it and maybe even enjoy it but you know there is much better stuff out there).

    Let's hope the showrunners pull off a good show, they got very good actressess at least.
     
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  16. DigificWriter

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    I disagree; the Legends and Prelude novels were my entry point into the Duneiverse, and are the reason I'm a fan of the IP.
     
  17. Asbo Zaprudder

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    The Pinky and the Brian books are what they are. They're relatively well-written fan fiction that misses the point of the original novels. It's shlock created to cash in on an existing IP, to which they had the rights, after all. The quality drops off over time, but I think that's also true of the originals. I gave up after the Butlerian Jihad novels, which seemed to describe a completely different timeline from what FH intended. That's fine. I gave my copies of their novels to a charity shop. Eminently disposable fiction.
     
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  18. FPAlpha

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    And that's ok and if it led to you reading the original novels all the better. But do you honestly think these novels are on the same level as the original ones by Frank Herbert?

    I'm not knocking them completely - i only ever read the House books and started on the Butlerian Jihad novel but especially the House novels lacked the finesse of the Frank novels. They just took some details of the original story such as how Gurney Halleck got his scar or why Barin Harkonnen was so fat and crafted something around it. You can read them on the train or if you don't want to tax your brain too much but ultimately it's not these books or books at that level that will be read decades from now and turn into classics.

    If they were needed is up for debate and anyone has to decide for themselves but personally for me it was just a cash grab to make some more money off the Dune IP.
     
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  19. Starbreaker

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    They can't really base the series on the books. The scope is just too enormous. There's a lot more that just the sisterhood going on. They're probably just taking the one story and the characters and maybe a major plot point or two. I don't think we're going to see adherence to the source material.
     
  20. Asbo Zaprudder

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    I believe the series will be set 10,000 years before the events of Dune, so perhaps 5 BG or 83 years after the battle of Corrin in the first days of the Corrino Empire during the Galactic civil war. I haven't read the BH&KJA novel so I'll steal the following from the fan wiki:
    Timeline (Expanded Dune) | Dune Wiki | Fandom

    It doesn't sound terrible but then I haven't read the book.