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Spoilers The Orville: New Horizons Season 3 Discussion

Interestingly, as of this post, only nine episodes of season 3 are on Disney plus.

I don't actually know when I'll find time to actually rewatch season 3, but in order to help the renewal effort, I started playing the first episode, put the TV on mute and went to bed. I'll just let it play all night.
 
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I was waiting til the season ended before watching any of it. Just finished it, enjoyed it immensely. This was exactly the show I always wanted it to be. Not afraid to be funny, but not trying so damn hard all the time to be. Character comedy and light-hearted moments. Classic moral dilemmas. Heart-breaking character drama. Two thumbs up, fingers crossed for more.
 
I mean, we all know the real reason why Star Trek doesn't exist in the Orville universe is because it's a Paramount property, and The Orville is a Disney show.

There's a limit to how far these 'shared universes" can go.
 
It would have been funny if Gordon went back to the 1960s instead of the 21st century and made money writing all his experiences into a Sci-fi TV show called Star Trek under the pseudonym Gene Roddenberry!
Except that the network rejected nearly all his character pitches as unacceptable or implausible, especially in the case of the females.
 
Rewatching the series, I forgot about the episode with the society that kills everyone born in a certain month and the solution was to create a fake star and they handwave away the prime directive issue with a 'who knows' discussion at the end.
It's weird though, because they make first contact based on first communication vs having FTL travel, which is the only reason the story in this episode could have happened in the first place.
 
I did note that in The Orville it was the replicator which Changed Everything whereas in Trek it was the warp drive.

Their entire society depends upon laziness being "frowned upon" enough for everyone to be encouraged to do something with their lives and that is in no way plausible.
I think replicators would change things more than warp drive, so I really liked that.

As to your point on plausibility, what (admittedly little) I know about some Native Peoples indicates that social pressure like that has and does work. Pre-colonization, there was no money and reputation was one's "currency" in many societies.

This raises the question of how “work” and “Not Doing Anything” are culturally conceptualized, which may not be as clear cut as one would believe.

A few weeks ago I was talking about UBI with some friends, and how some people believe that it could give people more free time to pursue other things they’ve always wanted too (art, painting, writing, learning a musical instrument, etc.,), to which someone replied “why should we pay people to stay home and do nothing all day?”.
I hate the way that making art isn't considered "work" in our society. I think we lose so much this way. How many people could create something amazing if they didn't have to worry about money? I think about the WPA in the Depression and J.K. Rowling writing Harry Potter while on the dole.
 
I hate the way that making art isn't considered "work" in our society. I think we lose so much this way.
very true. As a professional musician, son of a professional musician, it can be pretty depressing when you notice most people have zero idea on what my work involves and don’t consider it a job at all.

How many people could create something amazing if they didn't have to worry about money?
That’s something I hate of current society. The person that could be the next Mozart, Picasso or even Newton is likely going to die at 12 after a life of mining in Africa or working 18 hours a day at a fast food to survive.
 
How many people could create something amazing if they didn't have to worry about money?
My wife does for sure, and did, writing a novel and publishing it in the course of about 4 months.

I couldn't. My skills lie along a different path that is not creative.

I hate the way that making art isn't considered "work" in our society.
Meh. My job is not always considered work either, though it has value. But, when I am out working and constructing I see the difference in the attitude. My wife's regular job is crafting and selling soap but few would consider it a job. It's all in the perspective of the person, and the fact that we need to readjust our attitude towards what is work.

I think the next generation probably will. I don't hate current society for it; I engage with the next generation who is going to change it.
 
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