Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Rao Van Tickle

    Rao Van Tickle Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Luna? Ehh, as far as novel-born designs are concerned, I've always liked the Vesta class more and I'd rather they canonise that sleek beauty instead of featuring the Luna some more. Already seen enough of that one, grumble grumble... Lol, darn Trekkies, never content!

    But Trumbull? Never heard of that one, googling doesn't help either...?
     
  2. Dukhat

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    They can't canonize the Vesta class without the permission of its designer, as CBS/Paramount doesn't own the design.
     
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  3. Tuskin38

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    It's a new ship for the show named after Douglas Trumbull who died in February.

    Though we don't know if the ship will actually show up, or just appear as text on a computer screen. Same with the USS Luna.

    https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1491453168664084488
     
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  4. Rao Van Tickle

    Rao Van Tickle Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I can't imagine the creator missing such an opportunity for recognition if approached by Paramount, regardless of the compensation. Although, it might be better to save that design for later when it could be used with greater impact, instead of letting it disappear in Enterprise F's shadow.

    Ah, thanks.
     
  5. Dukhat

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    I don't think Paramount is feeling a huge urge to want to use the design.
     
  6. Rao Van Tickle

    Rao Van Tickle Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Well, they technically have access to all the STO designs already, so you're probably right. But IF Ezri Dax should return one day, wouldn't it be awesome if they made it happen? I never got into the relaunch novels myself, but a bunch of fans would feel great joy... and gratitude*!


    *Sorry.
     
  7. Dukhat

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    Isn’t Ezri in command of some other ship in STO?
     
  8. Paul755

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    Didn’t they put Ezri in command of the “Emmitt Till” during the DS9 anniversary doc when they were breaking down a potential S8. I think they even had a drawing of it and Eaglemoss was gonna make it.

    Id say that’s closer to “canon” than STO.
     
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  9. Dukhat

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    Yes, that’s what I was remembering. I think they used the top silhouette of that design for Rios’s former ship the ibn Majid.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    Ezri never appears in the game, she's only mentioned by Bashir, but she is captain of the Aventine like in the novels.
     
  11. valkyrie013

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    I'm in the "Aventine Fan" camp. And its just like the Luna class which we have seen as cannon, as a CBS book ship, so I don't think they need the permission of Mark Rademaker, and if asked I'd say 100% he'd say yes.
     
  12. Dukhat

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    I think they would still need to pay him royalties, which CBS/Paramount is loath to do.
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    They would need to pay him as he owns the rights to the design, Cryptic and CBS had to do the same thing when the ship was brought to STO. According to the EP of Cryptic at the time, it was a pain in the ass to negotiate the rights. I'm sure Eaglemoss had to do the same.

    The Luna Class is owned by CBS completely, it was a stipulation for the design the Titan contest, the winning design rights would go the CBS.

    I can't remember if the Vesta was a design commissioned for the books, or if Mark designed it and Pocketbook/CBS liked it so much they paid for it for the novel covers.
     
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    Isn't the Titan a Luna class ship? Makes more sense we would see her instead.
     
  15. Dukhat

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    According to rumor, the Titan is being refitted.
     
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    First I’ve heard that one, where did that come from?
     
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    According to one of the artists, the greeble around the impulse crystals or whatever it is on the actual PIC used Stargazer model, has things like water boilers in it lol
     
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    Got to keep that Tea, Earl Grey, Hot coming.
     
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