Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

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  1. Tuskin38

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    Thanks!
     
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    Quite welcome! :)
     
  3. Richard Baker

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    I don't mind a lot of the Frankenfleet designs except where they mingle ship parts from different scales. I do appreciate the effort they made to pare down the Galaxy class saucers to represent smaller primary hulls, but some of the ships ruined that effort with obvious model kit part swapping which looked so wrong with mixed scales
     
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    Now that is a cool design! I wish we'd have seen it.

    And I wish Eaglemoss would have made a model of it! :wah:
     
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    I kinda thought they just scrapped the design for a ship and used it for the Romulan disruptors instead.
     
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    That was intentional, according to Judy Elkins. They didn’t want the ships to resemble the filming models they already had.

    As for the use of the smaller 1/2500 Galaxy class saucers, that was done by professional model maker Ed Miarecki at the start of TNG, when he was given the job of building study models of other starship classes based on the Enterprise-D. The idea was to have more variety and newer ships than just the four filming models from the TOS movies. The Nebula class directly came from one of those study models. The studies were later used in BoBW as the wrecked ships in the Wolf 359 graveyard.
     
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    I meant of several models thay took a 1:1440 kit and cut the outside of the saucer off, leaving a smaller hull with the windows making it look like a smaller alternate primary hull.

    I like the Centaur class but using the 1:537 Miranda weapons pod on a 1:1000 Excelsior hull is the type of scale bashing I am talking about. I love kitbashed ships, but either keep the pieces in similar scale or make their sourcing obscure
     
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    I’m confused. There were no models at 1:1440 scale. There were models at 1:1400, which at the time of ‘A Time to Stand’ would have been just the large Enterprise-D kit, and possibly the Enterprise-E kit. Neither of those kits’ saucers were used for kitbashing purposes, much less having their saucers cut to make the saucer smaller.

    Alternatively, Miarecki’s kitbashes for TNG used 1/2500 saucers with a 1/1400 bridge module to give the appearance that the ship was smaller than a Galaxy class starship. He did not cut the outside of a 1/1400 saucer off to make a smaller saucer.

    In the actual episode that we see the Centaur, one cannot tell that a 1/537 Reliant pod and struts were used, because the ship was moving too fast for that detail to be made out. None of the kitbashes were meant to be scrutinized up close.
     
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    None of this was in Season 1 or 2, so it could either be unused or for Season 3
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    Interesting that both the TOS Enterprise NCC-1701 and the Discoprise NCC-1701 are depicted (as presumably the same ship.) That muddies the waters of the theory that the Discoprise was ‘always how the ship looked.’

    Oh, and after seeing this, there’s no way in hell that we’re not gonna see the Enterprise-F.
     
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    He also posted pictures of gold models of all the Enterprises at one point, including the DSC/SNW one along side the TOS one
     
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    I hear the squeaky gears of canon grinding their little teeth off. :lol:
     
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    The finale of SNW will be about the refit of Enterprise. Just a 50 minute conference room scene describing in detail what changes they're gonna make to the ship for the next 5 year mission.

    Engineer: Gentlebeings, we're starting with brand new pylons but we aren't stopping there!
     
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    Both looks happen, one around 2260 and the other from 2265-2270. Even Paramount embraces that so we probably need to.
     
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    Actually, according to the visuals in DSC, the ship looks like the first version during “The Cage” (2254) and looks like the second version starting with its first appearance in 2257. If we take the visuals literally. Which people say we shouldn’t. But then we have these plaques. I’m confused.