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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"

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Good episode in general. Only comment is they realllly power creeped the Gorn.

Kirk beat an adult Gorn with some bamboo and gunpowder. Against these Gorn he's dinner in five minutes.
 
So far as we know James T. Kirk never killed a Gorn. The one encountered in TOS didn't die and Kirk refused to take his life.
 
I kind of like Brainsucker's idea upthread that what we're seeing aren't actually Gorn, but a Gorn bioweapon. Although I can also see the species sort of working like Larry Niven's Protectors in reverse; the intellectually-superior final developmental form is less physically capable and less controlled by instinct. But this is all something for future episodes.

For a supposedly episodic show, there's an awful lot of carryover from one episode to the next, isn't there? I'm looking forward to seeing where Spock goes next.

I'm rating it an 8. A bit too derivative, although that's not a huge problem. If I eventually end up actually being satisfied with how the Gorn work it's a 9.

Losing Hemmer is such a bad decision that I have to wonder if something going on behind the scenes forced it. Has there been any chatter about the decision?
 
This is probably how Gorn are as full, spacefaring adults. Slowish and lower metabolisms. They have to rely on technology to hunt and defeat enemies and prey.
 
I liked it. I am not too crazy about losing Hemmer, as he was my favorite new character. But he went out gloriously. I thought he was going to be the breakout character of this series but now that chance is gone.

I assume the loss of Hemmer just before the end of the first season was planned right from the start. He was the Ned Stark/Lorca of this series.

Like everyone else I immediately thought he will be replaced with Scotty next season.
 
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Timofnine said:
I think that Chapel and Spock will *really* hit it off and have a full on affair, but Spock will mind wipe her using an ancient Vulcan memory suppression technique to make her stop loving him and suppress her emotions.. also hiding the incident from T’Pring, this will explain Chapel’s future interactions with Spock. It will be kind of like the scene in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country where Spock forces himself in to Valeris’s mind to extract information. Spock does not realise though that T’Pring is also cheating on him with Stonn and planning his death… so maybe he would have been better off with Chapel? Chapel could have been the love of his life but circumstance and tradition probably stopped him from developing this true love… he fought against it instead as he wanted to follow tradition and logic. This is *really* tragic if you think about it. I really want to ship Spock and Chapel now but I know it can never work out as the future is written… :wah:
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I was thinking along some of those same lines (Spock having to wipe their relationship from Chapel OR Sarek wiping it from both of them for some reason).
Spock did this for Kirk in "Requiem for Methuselah". "Forget". So there is precedent.
 
Lord Garth said:
No, but after a certain point, it's time to call a spade a spade. I got half-way there during the first two seasons of DSC, when I thought of it as a Visual Reboot. Now I'm all the way there in SNW's case, thinking of it as an out-and-out Soft Reboot.

Most people in these threads are just going with it. The Canonheads who still either can't or won't put two-and-two together are in the minority.
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I guess the writers and producers of the show are in this minority then...

fireproof78 said:
The Metrons were playing a game.
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I prefer to believe that Kirk is just that badass.
 
Ok so.. another very good episode. Tense and dark. A nice counterpoint to the earlier Gorn episode. I really enjoyed it.

However... DAMMIT... why'd they have to kill off my main man? I'm genuinely pissed here.
 
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LORCA: I wasn't merciful. And I wasn't quick. You can take the man out of the Mirror Universe, but you can't take the Mirror Universe out of the man.
 
I mean, for pete's sake you don't kill one of the main characters so early in an episodic series unless the actor's leaving AND you don't plan on bringing them back at some point. Getting real angry here, despite the fact that I really enjoyed the episode.

As someone else mentioned, however, I wouldn't mind Scotty now and.. despite his age, I would definitely want Simon Pegg here. :)
 
What on Earth would an "out-and-out soft reboot" even be?

"Captain, they've completely destroyed the fleet. But only kind of a little." :lol:
 
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