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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

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Which brings up a question.. If a vulcan throws logic away, is that a crime on Vulcan? And there locked up in an "insane asylum" till they "get better" by going back to logic.? Or do they have to commit some other crime?
T'Pring's log at the beginning mentioned that the rehab facility was for Vulcans without logic who had comitted other crimes, up to and including murder. So just abandoning logic was not enough for inprisonment, you had to do something criminal.

I assume there are other facilities for Vulcans who commit crimes while still embracing logic (or their interpretation of it); Vulcans similar to Valeris or the Vulcan terrorist in TNG Gambit played by Robin Curtis, but they keep them seperate from the Sense Offenders (to borrow a term from the movie Equilibrium, where you are executed for not taking a drug that supresses your emotions) so as not to poison their already corrupted minds with illogic, believing they are easier to rehab and rejoin society.

I imagine the trade-off for getting out of prison is that you have to fully embrace logic and purge all emotions, so in a way it is sort of a dystopia in that there's forced compliance with the dominant philosophy.

That's why Sybok is still rotting away in his cell. He won't comply and accept the way of Kohlinar.
 
Laughed and laughed at the reveal, because … Sybok!

Nutrek triples down on the Sarek Family Saga. Not what I needed.

The Spock / T’Pring romance interests me not at all. Too bad for me.

The villain was ridiculously overacting.

Where were the other 420 crewpeople? (I know, covid protocols, but those empty E corridors rang false.

Gave it a 6. Firs ep I would say is not good, perhaps even bad.

And why was the big E bumping into rocks? Clank clank.
 
TrekCulture pointed out a possible inconsistency in this episode, which is that the Enterprise was 2 days from realtime communication range at the start of the episode, but Angel was able to call T'Pring in real time.

Bit of a 'hmmm'.

However, simple headcanon explanation is that the pirates have access to a subspace relay network in the region that Starfleet doesn't know about or have access to. Maybe all the way back to Orion.
Supposedly the Vulcan Rehabilitation facility was very close to the edge of federation space. I've seen other posters claimed she was on Vulcan oh, but if you read the text at the opening of the episode The Rehabilitation facility is on a moon of a planet other than Vulcan.

Since Angel planned all along to trade Spock for Sybok, it stands to reason she'd set up her Ambush for the Enterprise as close to that Vulcan Rehabilitation facility as possible.
 
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When Dr. Simon Van Gelder can Kirk chop an Enterprise security guard unconscious ON THE BRIDGE WHILE KIRK IS THERE something has seriously gone wrong with starship security protocols. ;)
It's not necessarily anything to do with starship security. Pirates have been successfully commandeering ships with much larger crews than their own for thousands of years (yes, all the way back to the Sea Peoples of the late Bronze Age who destroyed the Hittite empire). It's more a matter of tactics than mere manpower.
 
This show keeps hitting it out of the park! It is interesting to learn more about Spock and Chapel's history together. Their chemistry is great. And the Sybok reference at the end is something I never saw coming. I'm curious to see if they explore that story later.
 
When Dr. Simon Van Gelder can Kirk chop an Enterprise security guard unconscious ON THE BRIDGE WHILE KIRK IS THERE something has seriously gone wrong with starship security protocols. ;)
A drugged up McCoy could sneak into the transporter room, knock out the transporter chief, and beam himself down to the "Time Planet" where he could make a mad dash into the Guardian of Forever.
 
There were some plot niggles (empty ship, can't target two satellites, etc.) but once the story made it obvious it was meant to be fun (Pike's plan, the goofy pirates, the over the top pirate queen) eventually I just settled in and rolled with it. Not having seen any promo stuff or whatever I didn't even realize the guest star's "secret" for a while and ultimately it was nice that they just rolled with it.

Chapel doesn't remind me at all of TOS Chapel but I love that character so much I don't really care. Uhura to a lesser extent doesn't quite seem like her TOS counterpart but she's lovely as well. I've been watching on occasion with my stepdad who doesn't care about that stuff and likes the show because it's fun which helps.

I’m not the biggest fan of retconning the Enterprise as the flagship at this time. To me it was just one of the 12 Connies. It’s the actions of Kirk that made future Enterprise’s the flagship later on.
Maybe that was just a feint from Pike to sell his story.
 
Okay, if we go with, “It’s a goofy one, Arggh,” okay. But it’s such a tonal shift from the first half of the ep.
 
By turning Sybok into Dr. Evil (which even ST5 didn't outright do)
and snw did that, right... :rolleyes:

I respect the English language (including usage of articles).
https://esl.uchicago.edu/2021/06/29/singular-they-a-users-guide/
https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/eb/qa/The-Singular-They

Bringing in religious fanatic Sybok at a time when real world religious tensions are a gazillion times higher than they ever were in 1989 is... well I know if Sybok wanted to find God he'd probably try to steal a time crystal (maybe from Boreth) and then time travel back two and a half thousand years to meet a certain someone on Nazareth, Earth, etc. But there's just no way they can do such an episode and not offend someone. Say for example Sybok goes back then and finds that nothing happened, then goes insane and tries to reach the center of the galaxy. Yeah, that would put the show into controversy if not immediate cancellation.

I'm one of the few that enjoy Star Trek 5 a bit, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do a prequel of Sybok's religious quest without either offending lots of people or ultimately making the arc unsatisfying (turning him into a generic Dr. Evil villain, which seems to be what they're going for judging by the last scene)
him having a vision of sha ka ree can only offend real-world believers in sha ka ree. how many do you suppose exist? :p there is no connection whatsoever to jesus or any other real religion.

Where were the other 420 crewpeople? (I know, covid protocols, but those empty E corridors rang false.
they only have ~200

Sybok's followers took over the Enterprise-A with just one shuttlecraft and a handful of handmade projectile weapons. Not everyone on the ship could have been brainwashed by Sybok's telepathic talents given how much time he spends on the bridge or with Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Security on a Federation starship is a pretty flimsy concept and if ships named Enterprise can fall to a small band of disgruntled rebels then there's not much hope for the rest of Starfleet's vessels.
the A was clearly shown to be very much "a disaster" as kirk put it. not even the log recorder worked. why would security :D
 
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