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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

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The original version of Sybok was far more evil than the Sybok they ended up with. He used his "Unicorn" horse as a weapon and at one point one of the adversary soldiers was impaled on the horn. Our final Sybok is driven and obsessed but clearly not all that evil.
That makes me wonder now just which Sybok we're going to get in this show. That he consorts with space pirates isn't really a good sign though...
 
When they were setting up how far out they were at the beginning of this one, how they needed to drop buoys even to be able to communicate, I said "Ohhhh, I LOVE how SNW is making space big again!" What a delightful departure from Discovery's practice of having all points in the galaxy only one hour away from each other, I thought.
Unfortunately it was a setup, CGI effects and all, that never paid off.
 
Ugh. First flop of the season. Had to give it a 6.

I hate it when the hero ship is taken over way too easily. I like La'an, but dang she looked bad in this one allowing the ship to be hijacked so very easily!

The cutesy stuff with the cooking and the mutiny plan didn't work. Going for cutesy comedy but it was bad. A then to have the cutesy bad stuff save the day for the sloppy security on the Enterprise just added insult to injury.

I did give this episode a bonus point for some very nice character moments, particularly between Spock and Chapel and the pirate lady. But you can't make an entire episode out of a few character moments.

First SNW episode to actively annoy me at points. It was looking like it was going to be a cat and mouse game between the Enterprise crew and the pirates, but alas it fell apart.

Here's hoping to a return to form next week!
 
I hate it when the hero ship is taken over way too easily. I like La'an, but dang she looked bad in this one allowing the ship to be hijacked so very easily!
One of the most acclaimed episodes of TOS featured a villain (who Trek has been rehashing for decades including making him the ancestor of La'an) who took over the Enterprise after reading some technical manuals in sickbay. :lol:
 
Bringing in religious fanatic Sybok at a time when real world religious tensions are a gazillion times higher than they ever were in 1989 is... well I know if Sybok wanted to find God he'd probably try to steal a time crystal (maybe from Boreth) and then time travel back two and a half thousand years to meet a certain someone on Nazareth, Earth, etc. But there's just no way they can do such an episode and not offend someone. Say for example Sybok goes back then and finds that nothing happened, then goes insane and tries to reach the center of the galaxy. Yeah, that would put the show into controversy if not immediate cancellation.

I'm one of the few that enjoy Star Trek 5 a bit, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do a prequel of Sybok's religious quest without either offending lots of people or ultimately making the arc unsatisfying (turning him into a generic Dr. Evil villain, which seems to be what they're going for judging by the last scene)

The show runners shouldn't worry about offending people. There is no right to not be offended, and, in fact, it can be mentally healthy to be forced to cope with opinions and things you don't agree with- that's part and parcel of being an adult.

Tell the stories you want, and the offended can either get over it, watch something else, or go scream in their safe space. Next week, maybe I'll be offended. A lot of things offend me, but I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder about them.
 
Ugh. First flop of the season. Had to give it a 6.
Ha, I also give it a 6, but my 6 meant "lots of weak parts but ultimately narrowly succeeds." :bolian:

The cutesy stuff with the cooking and the mutiny plan didn't work. Going for cutesy comedy but it was bad. A then to have the cutesy bad stuff save the day for the sloppy security on the Enterprise just added insult to injury.
If they had been able to make one of those pirates read as a specific, unique character and not just "generic buffoon type", it really could have worked.

Or if they'd just skipped over that whole middle sequence. We didn't need it. We could have had that holding cell scene -- "Alpha Braga IV?" "Alpha Braga IV!" -- and then the next time we see them they're in command of the ship (knowing look: "Alpha Braga IV"). The interesting story was Spock, Chapel, T'Pring, and Angel, we could have used more time there, and we can just jump over the mechanics in the other plot.
 
The show runners shouldn't worry about offending people. There is no right to not be offended, and, in fact, it can be mentally healthy to be forced to cope with opinions and things you don't agree with- that's part and parcel of being an adult.

Tell the stories you want, and the offended can either get over it, watch something else, or go scream in their safe space. Next week, maybe I'll be offended. A lot of things offend me, but I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder about them.
That other star franchise had to put up disclaimers because the Order 66 flashbacks caused a bunch of complaints even though Kenobi airing right after a school shooting was a coincidence.

At the end of the day, the show is a business. They want to keep subscriptions. If you look over at the X-Men movies, the character of William Stryker was changed into a generic military villain when the comic book version was a religious fanatic who killed his own employee upon finding out that she was a mutant and thus a blasphemy to his religion. I think Sybok might also be turned into generic terror villain instead of the space televangelist organizing hateful rallies that Shatner originally intended him to be.
 
Its unrealistic representation wise per the population numbers. Its not accurate at all.

We don't need your brand of 'accuracy '. We need tons of representation and to be loud and visible sonthat we are real human beings to cishet people.

Over representation of any group in movies or TV can give people a skewed version of reality in the real world. I prefer to view the world accurately. Here's a lgbtq article about that very thing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259571/americans-greatly-overestimate-gay-population.aspx

This is an unreliable narrative because the majority of queer people remain in the closet to avoid being discriminated against.

I wasnt talking about the show specifically. More about tv as a whole. How does Erica Ortegas present as gay? Nothing has been mentioned about her sexuality yet. With that said we need a Ortega episode or more screen time for her. She's my favorite character so far.

Her mannerisms, hairstyle and casualwear screams Sapphic butch.
 
That other star franchise had to put up disclaimers because the Order 66 flashbacks caused a bunch of complaints even though Kenobi airing right after a school shooting was a coincidence.

Disney is its own worst enemy in so many ways someone will probably end up writing a book on it.
 
Ugh. First flop of the season. Had to give it a 6.
More of personal curiosity than any real comment but a flop is a 6?
The show runners shouldn't worry about offending people. There is no right to not be offended, and, in fact, it can be mentally healthy to be forced to cope with opinions and things you don't agree with- that's part and parcel of being an adult.

Tell the stories you want, and the offended can either get over it, watch something else, or go scream in their safe space. Next week, maybe I'll be offended. A lot of things offend me, but I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder about them.
Indeed. Lots of things offend me, even in Trek. So what? Somehow, life goes on. It's a mystery as to how.
 
When I was watching this last night, I wasn’t sure what to make of the ham and cheese sandwich I was being served. But I think I’ve come down on the side of “loved it.” It was almost a covert comedy episode, but it also delivered not one but two good twists. What fun.

I have to admit, my first reaction at the beginning of episode was “More T’Pring already?” But the character relationships are really paying off. I’m finally starting to see why they included Chapel in the show.
 
When they were setting up how far out they were at the beginning of this one, how they needed to drop buoys even to be able to communicate, I said "Ohhhh, I LOVE how SNW is making space big again!" What a delightful departure from Discovery's practice of having all points in the galaxy only one hour away from each other, I thought.

Then at the end it took T'Pring 30 seconds to get there from Vulcan. It was nice while it lasted. :biggrin: I'm just going to tell myself a lot more time elapsed between scenes there than was suggested. :bolian:
That's almost exactly my take as well. Getting the Enterprise back out at the edge of known space and beyond. But then T'Pring, as usual, is there. Starfleet can rescue them if they can only get the message off. Etc.

Discovering "strange, new worlds" kind of requires going past known space!
 
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