Spoilers Jurassic World: Dominion grade and discussion thread

[The Nth Doctor]

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It's finally coming out tomorrow, for better or for worse!

I'm almost done with my Jurassicathon, having just finished Jurassic World, which I enjoyed more than the first. It still have a lot of supremely stupid stuff about it, but it's not just empty fluff like I recalled. We'll see if my opinion of Fallen Kingdom has improved any tomorrow and then I'll see this one hopefully sometime this weekend.

 

[Samurai8472]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1534611397925130240


39% on RT. Ouch

Jurassic World Dominion


‘Jurassic World Dominion’ Draws Mixed First Reactions and Largely Negative Reviews

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jurassic-world-dominion-first-reactions-1235286317/

I've been hearing bad word of mouth for the past few days. Someone said this is The Rise of Skywalker of the Jurassic films but it's worse

 

[fireproof78]

39% on RT. Ouch

Is this surprising anyone? Jurassic World was decent but that's about it. Just average.

 

[StCoop]

Well, that was an abject lesson in waiting for the reviews before buying your ticket; just a bad movie on almost every level.

People and dinosaurs having to coexist is an idea full of possibilities but they ignore those in favour of yet another isolated location where they can replay their "greatest hits".

The script is full of plot holes and inconsistencies and manages to retcon the retcons the last one added. It also has an antagonist who, depending on the scene, is either a James Bond villain out to control the world's food supply or an idiot trying to fix the disaster he caused before anyone finds out it was his fault.

Famously, this was the one movie that didn't stop shooting when Covid first struck but it really should have. It begins and ends with awfully done News Reports that seem to exist to cover scenes they didn't shoot. And while we all know film sets are ultimately just wood and plaster, when you have a $200+ million budget, you shouldn't be able to see that so easily.

All in all an ignoble end to the franchise. At least until they decide to reboot it in a few years.

 

[Ethros]

Saw it this afternoon, here's my extensive review---- It was ok, 3/5

I liked seeing the original cast back together. Eh. After the last one why would anyone be expecting something amazingly amazing?

 

[Dick Whitman]

I have yet to see the last one. Was mildly tempted to still see this for returning cast of original movie. But reactions are so bad I am not bothering.

 

[thribs]

It was pretty good. Has lots of different dinosaurs. The story is a bit odd and the villain was a strange character. Reminded me of Tim Cook.
I wish we had more of the legacy characters. They are just way more entertaining than the new ones.

 

[captainkirk]

It was pretty entertaining. Certainly a lot of things that can be criticized and picked apart, but it's very possible to enjoy something and be critical of it at the same time.

My biggest gripe is that we don't see nearly enough of dinosaurs in the wild and coming into conflict with humans. It was also surprisingly light on human deaths. Off-hand, I can only recall around five. Camp Cretaceous has a higher body count.

 

[Trekker4747]

So, everything I'm seeing is that the trailers out-right LIED about the premise of this movie and this isn't about what we think it is.

That has me disappointed and kind-of angry. As after the mess that was that second one, I was looking forward to what this one could bring.

I call for a hard reboot and do a darker more faithful adaptation of the original novel.

 

[captainkirk]

I call for a hard reboot and do a darker more faithful adaptation of the original novel.

As seemingly one of the few people who didn't really like the novels and their tone, I've never been in favor of that idea. I would like a smaller and more focused movie if we get another one.

 

[Samurai8472]

So, everything I'm seeing is that the trailers out-right LIED about the premise of this movie and this isn't about what we think it is.

That has me disappointed and kind-of angry. As after the mess that was that second once, I was looking forward to what this one could bring.

I call for a hard reboot and do a darker more faithful adaptation of the original novel.

As much as people like to complain about trailer trickery when it comes to Marvel this is definitely some of the most egregious false advertising, I have ever seen for a major studio film.

Say what you will about Marvel, but at least they've never released full scenes that ended up not being in the movie at all and to make it worse the stuff we got last year was way better than the final product.

Now, I'm curious as hell to know just how much Universal spent on those prologues because they didn't look cheap and how they can just get away scott free with such a misleading, marketing campaign.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I have to say that I actually quite enjoyed this film. Yes, it has its awkward, clumsy, and silly moments, and of course the gratuitous dino fights, but I really liked how the film did its best to break the Jurassic formula (until it didn't).

I do wish the film spent more time focused on the whole humans coexisting with dinosaurs theme that the most of the first act covered instead shifting towards the BioSyn conspiracy that was more geared towards the expected action sequences.

Perhaps the next film will have a big time jump, thus concluding the current stories but still have sequels, and that theme will have a larger role. That was the element I enjoyed the most, even more so than seeing the older characters meeting the newer characters.

Even though the film is already overstuffed with characters, it would've been nice to see Sarah Harding return whose environmental beliefs easily fit in with the themes of the film and would've been a good pairing with Claire's mission to free dinosaurs. I get why she wasn't included but I sure wish she was part of the fun.

Also: We finally got a bunch of dinosaurs who were fully feathered! And, as always, even more species, including an old favorite of mine, Dimetrodon (even though it's not actually a dinosaur).

Easily the best film since The Lost World (before San Diego).

Post script: I went in with the long-shot hope for an one-armed Samuel L. Jackson making a surprise appearance to proclaim "I have had it with these motherfucking dinosaurs on this motherfucking planet." I knew it would never happen, but it still would've been funny. Hopefully HISHE comes up with the same idea for their video on this film.

 

[Trekker4747]

As seemingly one of the few people who didn't really like the novels and their tone, I've never been in favor of that idea. I would like a smaller and more focused movie if we get another one.

The original novel is decent enough (TLW is okay but stumbles in trying to both be a sequel to the novel AND movie), obviously decent enough to inspire the first movie, but a lot of elements were changed to allow for the Spielberg-ness. Grant needing to learn to be around kids being one.

Jurassic Park has been around for almost 30 years. Every other franchise of films have gone through reboots or re-imaginings at this point. Star Trek, all the major superheroes (Batman, Superman and Spider-man have had SEVERAL),

It's time for JP to do the same. Start over. There's a bit in the book you can't reproduce, and you'll never recteate the on-screen magic of the original or even the scientific wonder of genetic discovery but there's things in there to do. Hell, go to the will and change the look of the dinosaurs to what current science believes on how they looked and behaved. There's stuff to do there but with a good cast and a good director. I don't think the current atmosphere of Hollywood could quite do it but... Maybe? It's something I'd like to see and, really, something Jurassic World (1) could have done and "almost" did with them look of the park being on the scale of what you'd expect from such a thing.

But they ruined their one shot to go with, and do, something interesting: Dinosaur Apocalypse. (Of course they'd need to explain how the handful of dinosaurs overtook the world, but some line that they breed, gestate, and mature to fully-grown quicker as part of the genetic modifications would take care of that.

But, no, for the sixth damn time in a row they've done "people trapped in isolated area/island with dinoaurs" they F-ed up. Time to start over.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

What happened to this film during its long shooting time? It seems to me that the film was cobbled together and that there were several turns in the storytelling. It wasn't a complete disappointment for me, as there were aspects of it that I liked, and it didn't drag as much as the one before. I would rate it a C.

 

[thribs]

What happened to this film during its long shooting time? It seems to me that the film was cobbled together and that there were several turns in the storytelling. It wasn't a complete disappointment for me, as there were aspects of it that I liked, and it didn't drag as much as the one before. I would rate it a C.

It's a Covid movie. That could explain it.

 

[captainkirk]

Not only that, but pretty much the first COVID movie.

 

[John Clark]

Saw it yesterday and I don't regret seeing it at the cinema. Enjoyed it enough (though I hadn't really seen any of the trailers before hand).

 

[Lakenheath 72]

One of the complaints I keep reading and hearing is that the film didn't have enough focus on the dinosaurs. That is true, but it is not as egregious as Camp Cretaceous which essentially abandon the dinosaurs in the second half of the last season for robots and other non-sense.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I had a feeling people would complain about that. But I guess they forget how little of the dinosaurs there were in the first film, especially in the first half. It's all about the slow burn.

Admittedly, there is a slight misbalance but it's not bad at all (and I haven't watched Camp Cretaceous to compare the film to).

 

[Trekker4747]

I guess they difference is between the first film and these with their focus on the characters rather than the dinosaurs is the characters in the original were interesting with interesting stories and here not so much plus focus on... Locusts?