Great. Was waiting for this to be announced. No way in hell should this be a series. This is Marvels answer to the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker. A cast like this...I'm assuming Sam Rockwell is coming back, no way should this be a series.
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I have no pony in this race, but I will say the concept sounds fantastic and probably would work best as a film.
IIRC doesn't she have a connection to the Power Broker? With Sharon still on the board that seems like the natural vector for her introduction, though not sure if that could happen at any point before 'Thunderbolts'. 'Secret Invasion' and 'CA4' seems like the most likely candidates.
I don't recall the PB ever being mentioned in any Thunderbolts stuff. Perhaps she had a connection when she was still Screaming Mimi, I haven't read all of her appearances from back then.
Screaming Mimi and the Grapplers got their powers from Roxxon oil, not Power Broker.
The connection you're thinking of might be the wrestling connection. The Grapplers were part of the superpowered wrestling organization featured in The Thing comic. Most of the rest of the wrestlers did indeed get their powers from the Power Broker, but not the Grapplers.
That sounds about right.
Even so, I think Sharon would be a better way to introduce her into the MCU. Yeah, Roxxon has been a presence in the MCU since forever, but it's always been more of a background thing so they'd have to do more legwork to establish some actual characters and motivations. On a similar note, the super-wrestlers thing can easily be switched out for Xialing's fighting pit, especially since Abomination is already involved in that.
All right, this calls for the Stan Lee voice... *clears throat*
"Not a trick! Not a stunt! We know you had so much fun before, True Believers... and so did we! Yet there was SO MUCH MORE we could have done...and now we're DOING it - because YOU DEMANDED IT!!! Get ready to websling, reunite with friends old and new, and have your minds blown all over again, Webheads! EXCELSIOR!!!"
"Not a trick! Not a stunt! We know you had so much fun before, True Believers... and so did we! Yet there was SO MUCH MORE we could have done...and now we're DOING it - because YOU DEMANDED IT!!! Get ready to websling, reunite with friends old and new, and have your minds blown all over again, Webheads! EXCELSIOR!!!"
We've seen Roxxon in Agent Carter, Cloak & Dagger, Loki...maybe it's time for them to live up to their villain creating potential.
New marketing material gives us a look at one of Shuri's looks
On the subject of Roxxon: they're basically Ms. Marvel's biggest archnemesis and as far as I know we still don't really know who the villain of MM is going to be, do we?
Maybe we'll see something from them very soon.
Maybe we'll see something from them very soon.
Love to see Cloak and Dagger appear--and, yes, I know that is not going to happen.
Maybe it's just me, but I kind of like how Roxxon has been just a stand-in for basically ALL faceless, amoral, profit obsessed, grossly incompetent, and irresponsible mega-corporations, not a front for some secret cabal bent on world domination or whatever. I feel like adding some Lex Luthor style villain would only dilute that. Also that would be giving actual billionaires more credit than they really deserve.
Ditto. Which is why I was *really* surprised that I loved the fist season. I chalk it up to Jon Bernthal's performance.
Me too, so as far as I'm concerned, it's not only allowed, but Cool.
Frank Castle is one of those 'rorschach test' characters, where the relative merits in any particular incarnation is more a reflection of a given writer's proclivities and the times in which he appears than anything the character really brings to the table.
His original introduction was as an antagonist, and only intended as a one-off b-lister at that. Shallow and two dimensional by design. But the books sold and he apparently got a lot of fanmail they they kept bringing him back, which kind of necessitated making him more of an anti-hero. His early popularity shouldn't come as much of a surprise given this was the era of 'Dirty Harry', 'Death Wish', 'French Connection' and 'The Day of the Jackal' ; bad-cop anti-heroes and assassins abound!
The next big spike from him came out of the 80's Frank Miller era (along with Daredevil and Electra) and well . . . Frank Miller is going to Frank Miller up the joint, and in fairness: at the time his style was a breath of fresh(ish) air for superhero comics. Of course in hindsight (as with most of Miller's oeuvre) it seems the crazed over the top bombast wasn't actually intended to be the parody that it appeared to be, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Then the 90's were a death spiral of 90's silliness (and the bad artwork that typified the period) before Ennis brought the character back from the brink and re-centred him on the whole "veterans with PTSD" angle; as grounded and "realistic" as the character has ever been, and as it happened almost perfectly in time for 9/11 and the massive wave of fetishization of the U.S. military that followed in it's wake. And he's basically stayed like that ever since.
For me personally; I can take or leave Frank. When used well he's a great foil and addition to a balanced ensemble; a great example of a character with an uncompromising "black and white" sense of morality, where the ends always justify the means (without flinching on how utterly unlikable and arrogant such a person would be). Which is why he's such a perfect match for Matt Murdock (AKA: Catholic Guilt Personified.) On his own though, he tends to flounder and wallow. Probably why I never got through the second season on Netflix. by the third or fourth episode I just didn't really care.
His original introduction was as an antagonist, and only intended as a one-off b-lister at that. Shallow and two dimensional by design. But the books sold and he apparently got a lot of fanmail they they kept bringing him back, which kind of necessitated making him more of an anti-hero. His early popularity shouldn't come as much of a surprise given this was the era of 'Dirty Harry', 'Death Wish', 'French Connection' and 'The Day of the Jackal' ; bad-cop anti-heroes and assassins abound!
The next big spike from him came out of the 80's Frank Miller era (along with Daredevil and Electra) and well . . . Frank Miller is going to Frank Miller up the joint, and in fairness: at the time his style was a breath of fresh(ish) air for superhero comics. Of course in hindsight (as with most of Miller's oeuvre) it seems the crazed over the top bombast wasn't actually intended to be the parody that it appeared to be, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Then the 90's were a death spiral of 90's silliness (and the bad artwork that typified the period) before Ennis brought the character back from the brink and re-centred him on the whole "veterans with PTSD" angle; as grounded and "realistic" as the character has ever been, and as it happened almost perfectly in time for 9/11 and the massive wave of fetishization of the U.S. military that followed in it's wake. And he's basically stayed like that ever since.
For me personally; I can take or leave Frank. When used well he's a great foil and addition to a balanced ensemble; a great example of a character with an uncompromising "black and white" sense of morality, where the ends always justify the means (without flinching on how utterly unlikable and arrogant such a person would be). Which is why he's such a perfect match for Matt Murdock (AKA: Catholic Guilt Personified.) On his own though, he tends to flounder and wallow. Probably why I never got through the second season on Netflix. by the third or fourth episode I just didn't really care.
A 'Wonder Man' series is in the works for Disney+ from Shang-Chi director Destin Daniel Cretton.
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/de...sney-plus-wonder-man-andrew-guest-1235281895/
Has anyone told Nathan Fillion yet?
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/de...sney-plus-wonder-man-andrew-guest-1235281895/
Has anyone told Nathan Fillion yet?
I hope they don't send the same guy that was supposed to tell him about the Uncharted movie.
The Daniel Destin Cretin / Shang-Chi connection is interesting given the cosmic nature of Simon's powers. I wonder if this will be leading into a connection to the rings and an appearance in the Shang-Chi sequel?
Granted my exposure to the character is limited to only a few early 90s comics and the Marvel Trading Cards of the same period, but Wonder Man always seemed rather bland to me. I'm curious to see how he's utilized here.