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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x04 - "Memento Mori"

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Wrong again. With Alexa, Google, Bixby, and Siri, the user's query is being parsed and analysed; data is being indexed, retrieved, and formatted; and the information is delivered to the user. Just like the Enterprise's computer would have to do it. All with no rattling and clanking of antiquated relays and magnetic core memory like the good old days.


Uh enterprise computer actually was giving solutions and thinking. Alexa just pulls up files from the internet. Simple compared to the star trek computer.
 
I took some computer programming in college. I don't do it for a living. I use computers all time. I still can't ask it for solutions to complex problems.
That wasn't your claim, chum. You said that it wasn't calculating, which is incredibly silly on the face of it, considering that we're talking about A COMPUTER.
If you have to pretend like I'm addressing a different claim, you know how weak your position is.

enterprise computer actually was giving solutions and thinking.
You made that up. Nothing suggests that the Enterprise computer is an actual AI.
 
That wasn't your claim, chum. You said that it wasn't calculating, which is incredibly silly on the face of it, considering that we're talking about A COMPUTER.
If you have to pretend like I'm addressing a different claim, you know how weak your position is.


You made that up. Nothing suggests that the Enterprise computer is an actual AI.


When Kirk was having a discussion with the computer when it was updated and the voice was totally female it was definitely AI. It's AI of the most rudimentary kind though.
 
Uh enterprise computer actually was giving solutions and thinking. Alexa just pulls up files from the internet. Simple compared to the star trek computer.
Wrong again. Richard Daystrom himself said the Enterprise's computer, based on his Duotronics architecture, was an antique compared to the Multritronic-based M5. Why? "Because M5 thinks, Captain."

There it is. From Daystrom's own mouth. The Enterprise's computer does not think. In fact, it's doing much the same as Alexa and the rest: processing and retrieving information.

But, do prattle on. Your complete lack of understanding as to how computers actually work is quite funny.
 
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Wrong again. With Alexa, Google, Bixby, and Siri, the user's query is being parsed and analysed; data is being indexed, retrieved, and formatted; and the information is delivered to the user. Just like the Enterprise's computer would have to do it. All with no rattling and clanking of antiquated relays and magnetic core memory like the good old days.
Daystrom was handicapped by a screenwriter who knew nothing about computers.
 
That wasn't your claim, chum. You said that it wasn't calculating, which is incredibly silly on the face of it, considering that we're talking about A COMPUTER.
If you have to pretend like I'm addressing a different claim, you know how weak your position is.


You made that up. Nothing suggests that the Enterprise computer is an actual AI.
He's squarely in this mode:
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When Kirk was having a discussion with the computer when it was updated and the voice was totally female it was definitely AI. It's AI of the most rudimentary kind though.
Make a voice sexy and obviously it‘s AI
Can you give your best example of the Enterprise computer doing a creative solution to something, as you claim, instead of doing math or giving statistical probability for something?
 
Wrong again. Richard Daystrom himself said the Enterprise's computer, based on his Duotronics architecture, was an antique compared to the Multritronic-based M5. Why? "Because M5 thinks, Captain."

There it is. From Daystrom's own mouth. The Enterprise's computer does not think. In fact, it's doing much the same as Alexa and the rest: processing and retrieving information.

But, do prattle on. Your complete lack of understanding as to how computers actually work is quite funny.


M5 had emotions abd a conscious. The Enterprise was AI but wasn't self aware.
 
Siri and Alexa are also AI and not self aware.

All AI does, is executing algorithms in response to presented problems. The better the algorithms (and the sexier the voice) the more it‘s convincing to be thinking.
 
I wouldn't say the Enterprise computer was any more an AI than Alexa or Google Assistant. That it "talks" more on par with an intelligence is irrelevant we're probably a few years away from that ourselves to having phone assistants on par with the ones in "Her" who talk and interact as an intelligence but aren't one. (Where Her kind of ends.) If there aren't already ones out there now in use or being tested.

There's a vast difference between something that talks and behaves like an intelligence and something that actually is one. The Enterprise computer does the same thing ours do it grabs the information and reads it to you. When I ask my phone a question it reads the first Google result (usually the opening of a Wiki page.) The Enterprise does the same thing, someone once just thought it'd be more personable if it flirted with the user. (Tomorrow is Yesterday) Google Assistant can have its more "personable" quirks turned on and off too.

That the -D once told Data to shut-up is an oddity of the first season best ignored.
 
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