Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

My favorite line: Shepherd quoting Azetbur from The Undiscovered Country.

 

That door is forbidden to all except loyal Federation citizens...

 

I suspect the telepathy was mostly on Hemmer, since Vulcans are primarily "touch" telepaths. All Spock had to do was open a window in his mind so that Hemmer could sense when Spock was throwing the object.

 

And we know Aenar telepathy is powerful since they could use an interactive headset to control drone ships many light-years away. Spock simply thinking something along the lines of: "I'm about to toss this carrot at you" would be enough.

 

Tonally, it sounds similar to the instrument Trelane played in "The Sqire of Gothos", at least to me. Of course, I have zero music training or aptitude, so that's FWIW.

 

I still remember on VOY episode "Random Thoughts" when Tuvok was able to telepathically communicate with the Alien Species of the week and he mentions that Vulcans can do basic Telepathic communication (Speaking via Telepathy instead of using their mouth to create words using sound), but he generally doesn't for polite-ness sakes when in company of non-telepaths.

It seems like basic Telepathic conversation is fine, but deeper memory sharing and reliving requires a "Mind Meld" or "Touch Telepathy".

 

That's a good point. We know Pike was left there, but it's not a given that he died there. The Talosians had some very advanced medical technology. It's entirely possible that they were able to restore him to some degree, and he and Vina went on to have a long and happy life together. Remember, the only reason they messed up with Vina is (supposedly) they didn't know what she was supposed to look like.

Hey, maybe they could have a sequel series called "Chris and Vina, the Next Generation", where they open a Talosian Amusement Park to compete with the "Shore Leave" planet!

OK, I guess I've been awake too long...

 

I would not recommend watching Marvel films then either.

Yeah, I can no longer hold this trope against Trek. It's simply a product of the 2010s/20s or whatever.

 

It seems to me they could help themselves by having two or maybe three stories in a season. That way they could tighten up those lagging middles parts somewhat, plus increase the chance that one of them could be exceptional.

 

Kirk, after the loss of several ships and the death of hundreds of crewmen caused by the Enterprise's computer (The Ultimate Computer)


Kirk, after the losing of Memory Alpha and all the people living there (The Lights of Zetar)


Kirk, following the violent deaths of several women at the hands of a serial killer (Wolf In The Fold)


Kirk, after the death of his brother, (EDIT Thank you @JoaquinSlowly), his sister-in-law and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.



Look, I understand why people don't want to see their favorite characters moping all the time, but I'm not sure that depicting them insensible and slightly inhuman is the best alternative...

 

Small correction, it was the death of Kirk’s brother, sister-in-law, and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.

It was a bloodbath. Those flying murder pancakes left almost no survivors.

 

Thank you!!!

 

I remember watching Voyager, and every time the ship took damage huge piles of what looked like charcoal fell all over the place. Made me wonder, what is this ship made of? Is this the USS Kingsford?

 

Don’t you mean “Single Female Lawyer?” Big hit on Omicron Persei 8 I’m told.

 

Did anyone else think the Shepherd was being playing by James Cromwell until the credits prove otherwise? Obviously he was buried deep under prosthetics but I really thought it was his voice. Would have been a nice touch if it has been. Berman Trek reused actors all the time. It would be nice if some showed up on this show (just as different characters and not as Fking Soongs, thanks all the same, Brent).

 

Sound is nothing but vibrations of matter. Doesn't matter if it's through air, or water, or expanding plasma. While space has a very low matter density, making the general statement true, some situations will transmit sound. Again, it's not a mantra.

As someone mentioned earlier, I already like all the characters. I mean, it took 2 seasons for the characters of TNG to be fully fleshed out and likeable, and I'm still very iffy about some DSC characters. It's quite a feat that, like TOS and DS9, I'm immediately drawn to these ones.

Like Enterprise S4. That model was probably the best balance of format.

Maybe that's how Kirk copes, you know? Maybe he's a wreck inside, but uses humour and levity to get through it, on top of wanting to show the crew that everything'll be alright.

 

My personal canon now is that he suffers from severe PTSD and he is unable to process grieving correctly. But he doesn't realize that he can be inappropriate and disrespectful. And because he is the captain, no one has the courage to say: "Dude, the bodies of our mates are still floating out there because our computer went mad and destroyed their ships. Can you wait until the funerals before cracking jokes, thank you?"

 

No one survived Tarsus V.

I think the script was just that they killed half the colonists, so that that the remaining food would last twice as long, but some of us sat through The 100, so you got to wonder if the plan was to eat the dead, if the relief ships had not arrived early.

Kirk definitely ate a person.

Mentally scared to an emotional death at such a young age, nothing later that would ever happen to Jim Kirk could move him for longer than 12 minutes.

 

To my knowledge, there is no canonical data stating that Vulcans are 'touch telepaths'.
They are telepaths... period. Close proximity and direct touch is only required (seemingly) for mind melds... but otherwise, they can easily communicate telepathically without physical touch and do other telepathic activities (psychokinesis was also implied).

T'Pol and Trip developed a telepathic bond over many lightyears without touching (though there was 'some' initiation on T'Pol's part for it to work initially).
Tuvok was communicating telepathically with species 8472 and another telepathic individual in season 4 without physical touching either.

Touch is not a requirement for telepathy as such. It seems necessary for initiating mind-meld... but we also don't know if the physical touching is an actual requirement or something that Vulcans in general developed as part of tradition that makes it easier to do.
Its also possible that more adept Vulcan telepaths could initiate mind melds at a distance... we just don't know.... but touch telepaths as such? Nope.

 

I would rationalize this with the premise that SF officers are usually provided mental control exercises via meditation during their Academy training which allow them to retain greater degree of emotional control and deal with someone else's death fairly quickly, to the point where they acknowledge it happened, so it doesn't really affect them as much as it would have a regular person today.

This is more than possible to achieve in real life... and its not insensible... its actually very practical and allows a person to cope with extenuating circumstances and death a lot better vs becoming emotionally crippled.