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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

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Huh. Didn't notice that before. I guess the blinds are closed?

I want to know what's behind this door...
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That door is forbidden to all except loyal Federation citizens...;):nyah:
 
I wonder what the range of the Telepathic Communication between Spock & Hemmer extends to?

Can Spock & Hemmer use Telepathy to communicate when one is on the Bridge, and the other is in Engineering?

Even in a crisis where regular comms are down?

Or does Spock need line of sight with Hemmer for his Telepathy to work?


I suspect the telepathy was mostly on Hemmer, since Vulcans are primarily "touch" telepaths. All Spock had to do was open a window in his mind so that Hemmer could sense when Spock was throwing the object.
 
And we know Aenar telepathy is powerful since they could use an interactive headset to control drone ships many light-years away. Spock simply thinking something along the lines of: "I'm about to toss this carrot at you" would be enough.
 
thanks. Since you provided explanation I’ll post an example I’ve always loved! ;)

This piece sounds unpleasant (or at least REALLY “wrong”) to our hears, but it would have been pleasant to someone living in Europe in the late 1500s.
Notice how different the keyboard is, also, with separated flat and sharps: in fact one of the reasons we got to today’s systems (note the plural) is to make playing music easier by compromising on intonation.
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I’ll also add that major third intervals were not considered consonant, pleasant, or in fact used at all (in favour of fourths) until we got to the beginning of our current harmonic system.

Tonally, it sounds similar to the instrument Trelane played in "The Sqire of Gothos", at least to me. Of course, I have zero music training or aptitude, so that's FWIW.
 
I suspect the telepathy was mostly on Hemmer, since Vulcans are primarily "touch" telepaths. All Spock had to do was open a window in his mind so that Hemmer could sense when Spock was throwing the object.
I still remember on VOY episode "Random Thoughts" when Tuvok was able to telepathically communicate with the Alien Species of the week and he mentions that Vulcans can do basic Telepathic communication (Speaking via Telepathy instead of using their mouth to create words using sound), but he generally doesn't for polite-ness sakes when in company of non-telepaths.

It seems like basic Telepathic conversation is fine, but deeper memory sharing and reliving requires a "Mind Meld" or "Touch Telepathy".
 
About pike, anyone thinking that his desire to survive his future condition might lead to Spock developing the Talos IV plan? Also: we know that he ends there, but we don’t know that he stays there forever…Just saying!

That's a good point. We know Pike was left there, but it's not a given that he died there. The Talosians had some very advanced medical technology. It's entirely possible that they were able to restore him to some degree, and he and Vina went on to have a long and happy life together. Remember, the only reason they messed up with Vina is (supposedly) they didn't know what she was supposed to look like.

Hey, maybe they could have a sequel series called "Chris and Vina, the Next Generation", where they open a Talosian Amusement Park to compete with the "Shore Leave" planet!

OK, I guess I've been awake too long... :shrug:
 
^ I'd agree with those. And I'd add that it appears like they have the beginning and ends figured out, but it looks like they just wing the middle.

It seems to me they could help themselves by having two or maybe three stories in a season. That way they could tighten up those lagging middles parts somewhat, plus increase the chance that one of them could be exceptional.
 
Kirk, after the loss of several ships and the death of hundreds of crewmen caused by the Enterprise's computer (The Ultimate Computer)


Kirk, after the losing of Memory Alpha and all the people living there (The Lights of Zetar)


Kirk, following the violent deaths of several women at the hands of a serial killer (Wolf In The Fold)


Kirk, after the death of his brother, (EDIT Thank you @JoaquinSlowly), his sister-in-law and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.



Look, I understand why people don't want to see their favorite characters moping all the time, but I'm not sure that depicting them insensible and slightly inhuman is the best alternative...
 
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Kirk, after the death of his brother, his sister-in-law and knowing that now his niece is an orphan.


Small correction, it was the death of Kirk’s brother, sister-in-law, and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.

It was a bloodbath. Those flying murder pancakes left almost no survivors.
 
I'm just glad the bridge seems much more reasonably sized and utilitarian than the comparatively cavernous and largely empty bridge on Discovery. As long as they don't do those Wizard of Oz flame effects when there's damage to the ship, I'll consider it a huge win.
I remember watching Voyager, and every time the ship took damage huge piles of what looked like charcoal fell all over the place. Made me wonder, what is this ship made of? Is this the USS Kingsford?
 
Did anyone else think the Shepherd was being playing by James Cromwell until the credits prove otherwise? Obviously he was buried deep under prosthetics but I really thought it was his voice. Would have been a nice touch if it has been. Berman Trek reused actors all the time. It would be nice if some showed up on this show (just as different characters and not as Fking Soongs, thanks all the same, Brent).
 
Sure, if debris hits you in the head, you're gonna sense it. But it won't be sound :D
Sound is nothing but vibrations of matter. Doesn't matter if it's through air, or water, or expanding plasma. While space has a very low matter density, making the general statement true, some situations will transmit sound. Again, it's not a mantra.

9/10. I loved this episode. It was amazing to learn more about Uhura's background, and I found the central conflict interesting. The beginning scenes with Anson Mount and the crew were great as well. This crew gels well together.
As someone mentioned earlier, I already like all the characters. I mean, it took 2 seasons for the characters of TNG to be fully fleshed out and likeable, and I'm still very iffy about some DSC characters. It's quite a feat that, like TOS and DS9, I'm immediately drawn to these ones.

It seems to me they could help themselves by having two or maybe three stories in a season. That way they could tighten up those lagging middles parts somewhat, plus increase the chance that one of them could be exceptional.
Like Enterprise S4. That model was probably the best balance of format.

Look, I understand why people don't want to see their favorite characters moping all the time, but I'm not sure that depicting them insensible and slightly inhuman is the best alternative...
Maybe that's how Kirk copes, you know? Maybe he's a wreck inside, but uses humour and levity to get through it, on top of wanting to show the crew that everything'll be alright.
 
Maybe that's how Kirk copes, you know? Maybe he's a wreck inside, but uses humour and levity to get through it, on top of wanting to show the crew that everything'll be alright.
My personal canon now is that he suffers from severe PTSD and he is unable to process grieving correctly. But he doesn't realize that he can be inappropriate and disrespectful. And because he is the captain, no one has the courage to say: "Dude, the bodies of our mates are still floating out there because our computer went mad and destroyed their ships. Can you wait until the funerals before cracking jokes, thank you?"
 
Kirk, after the loss of several ships and the death of hundreds of crewmen caused by the Enterprise's computer (The Ultimate Computer)


Kirk, after the losing of Memory Alpha and all the people living there (The Lights of Zetar)


Kirk, following the violent deaths of several women at the hands of a serial killer (Wolf In The Fold)


Kirk, after the death of his brother, (EDIT Thank you @JoaquinSlowly), his sister-in-law and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.



Look, I understand why people don't want to see their favorite characters moping all the time, but I'm not sure that depicting them insensible and slightly inhuman is the best alternative...

No one survived Tarsus V.

I think the script was just that they killed half the colonists, so that that the remaining food would last twice as long, but some of us sat through The 100, so you got to wonder if the plan was to eat the dead, if the relief ships had not arrived early.

Kirk definitely ate a person.

Mentally scared to an emotional death at such a young age, nothing later that would ever happen to Jim Kirk could move him for longer than 12 minutes.
 
I suspect the telepathy was mostly on Hemmer, since Vulcans are primarily "touch" telepaths. All Spock had to do was open a window in his mind so that Hemmer could sense when Spock was throwing the object.

To my knowledge, there is no canonical data stating that Vulcans are 'touch telepaths'.
They are telepaths... period. Close proximity and direct touch is only required (seemingly) for mind melds... but otherwise, they can easily communicate telepathically without physical touch and do other telepathic activities (psychokinesis was also implied).

T'Pol and Trip developed a telepathic bond over many lightyears without touching (though there was 'some' initiation on T'Pol's part for it to work initially).
Tuvok was communicating telepathically with species 8472 and another telepathic individual in season 4 without physical touching either.

Touch is not a requirement for telepathy as such. It seems necessary for initiating mind-meld... but we also don't know if the physical touching is an actual requirement or something that Vulcans in general developed as part of tradition that makes it easier to do.
Its also possible that more adept Vulcan telepaths could initiate mind melds at a distance... we just don't know.... but touch telepaths as such? Nope.
 
Kirk, after the loss of several ships and the death of hundreds of crewmen caused by the Enterprise's computer (The Ultimate Computer)


Kirk, after the losing of Memory Alpha and all the people living there (The Lights of Zetar)


Kirk, following the violent deaths of several women at the hands of a serial killer (Wolf In The Fold)


Kirk, after the death of his brother, (EDIT Thank you @JoaquinSlowly), his sister-in-law and two nephews, with one nephew, Peter, left an orphan.



Look, I understand why people don't want to see their favorite characters moping all the time, but I'm not sure that depicting them insensible and slightly inhuman is the best alternative...


I would rationalize this with the premise that SF officers are usually provided mental control exercises via meditation during their Academy training which allow them to retain greater degree of emotional control and deal with someone else's death fairly quickly, to the point where they acknowledge it happened, so it doesn't really affect them as much as it would have a regular person today.

This is more than possible to achieve in real life... and its not insensible... its actually very practical and allows a person to cope with extenuating circumstances and death a lot better vs becoming emotionally crippled.
 
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