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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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And it was one Helluva addiciton. It made T'Pol's emotions come to the surface and rendered her very unstable.
Reminds me of a test that a college Professor once gave in my 'English Comprehension' course on the first day.
His instructions before hand were to read the first page and then proceed.
There were 15 pages to the exam. (about 120 questions)
At the top of the first page it said...
Read all the questions.
Then answer to the best of your ability.
Then sign at the bottom of the last page, turn in the exam papers and leave.
Myself and two other students were done within the first five minutes...
Everyone else stared at us as we turned in the test and left.
The kicker was Question #120, it read ...
"After reading all the questions, don't answer any, sign your name below and you can leave."
That's brutal. I'd have answered about half the questions, skipped to the end and then read the note to skip all the questions
Thankfully positive historical change makers never had this attitude - Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Nelson Mandela, Malcolm X, Gay riots activists, the civil right activists, the Suffragettes, etc etc etc
So what aspect of the KKK point of view do you think I as a black female should explore..feel free to discuss on TNZ.
in the last big discussion about that, the conclusion was that they do it every morning, because it is logical to relieve certain physiological blood reallocations that happen in the morning... probably without emotions, purely mechanical, while both of them focus on other things like reading the news
So, just the women just lie back and think of Surak?
It's only logical.
Vulcans after sex.
Yeah, if anyone her backstory is closest to Tasha Yar... survived terrible conditions, rescued by Starfleet...
I thought the ridiculous high heels caused that.
You laugh, but T'Pol started the trend that led to Seven of Nine wearing ridiculous heels more than 200 years later.
I think that's how it works. Timey-wimey stuff and that kinda whatever.
I think that's how it works. Timey-wimey stuff and that kinda whatever.
I might have to rewatch but didn't Robert April say that the Federation High Court (I assume another name for the Federation Supreme Court) had to be convinced not to punish Pike for the non-interference directive violations? Why would they be involved? Wouldn't jurisdiction fall under a Starfleet/military court tribunal or court martial?
For me this is what TNG should have been in 1987.
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This is the first episode of Star Trek since Voyager’s scorpion part 1 that I would give a 10/10. But maybe I am being too generous as this is the type of Star Trek that we should have got years ago, and my excitement at having a series which so closely resembles what we know and love is probably clouding my judgment and giving me rose tinted glasses to view the episode through. Therefore, I have high praise for the overall packaging of the show, at least for the presentation of episode 1. Let’s hope that this quality of production continues for the duration of season 1 and beyond. I am assuming that as this is a 5 year mission, this will be a 5 year series of stand alone episodes with 5 seasons as Pike states in the opening credits? I guess that they could do a two parter ‘Year of Hell’ style episode if they wanted to shorten the series down by a year or so for budget reasons?
First of all, the special effects were absolutely fantastic, they did seem a bit CGI cartoon like in places but I think that they are more than acceptable on a television budget and almost movie quality. The most cartoonish effect was the shuttle craft landing in the snow as the Admiral arrives to pick up the reluctant Captain Pike for his mission to rescue Una. Speaking of Una, I was not happy with how easily Pike could transfer his pet name for her ‘number one’ to another crew member, I always assumed that there a bit of sentiment behind these more personalised designations that Captain’s give to address their crew members. This could show us that there may be a bit of shallowness about this iteration of the Pike character when dealing with the people around him, but hopefully this is a character trait that he will grow out of as the series develops and he begins to forge even deeper bonds with his crew.
Back to the special effects though, I think that many people would agree with me when I say that the Enterprise being exposed to the entire planet’s population was quite breathtaking and very well directed. As breathtaking as these special effects shots were, we also got to see very well rendered effect shots of the destruction of major Earth cities during a World War III depiction. These scenes, all though rated PG-13, were still quite disturbing and very effective at showcasing the potential flashpoint’s of nuclear weapons of mass destruction causing (beyond) decimation of Earth cities and causing apocalyptic devastation to our planet. I’m not sure how Earth could have recovered from this type of devastation in all honesty and rebuilt in to the future that we know and love in the Star Trek universe. This conflict almost seemed like an extinction level event that would lead to the collapse of not just civilised society but also entire natural ecosystems, and surely radiation levels would make large parts of our planet uninhabitable for most forms of life (other than Dalek’s) well past the 24th century. Any survivors from this conflict would surely be living in hellish post apocalyptic conditions, irradiated to debilitating and torturous levels, not to speak of the collateral horrific injuries, disabilities, societal problems and disease that would also be running rampant in such a nightmare scenario. The destruction of civilisation and society on a World War III level would be irreversible in my opinion, and create a world not worth living in for those unfortunate enough to survive the said apocalyptic nuclear hell hole until humanity ‘fizzled out’. I’m hoping that World War III as depicted in this episode never actually happened in the prime Star Trek timeline, but instead in an mirror alternate universe running parallel with our own and this is why we never get to see it properly on screen. I think that it would be cool if all records of World War III were recorded by ‘someone’ (see spoilers below!) in this alternate reality and sent over to prime Earth of the time as a warning as to what could happen if people get too trigger happy over politics and forget the true value of living in peace and encouraging planetary harmony and cooperation for *all* of our mutual benefit and survival.
Maybe Young Guinan and Rios played a part in getting this message across with the help of Wil Wheaton, sorry I mean Wesley Crusher thanks to the Watchers and the Travellers?
The soundtrack was fantastic overall, from subtle moments to more bombastic orchestral numbers. I LOVE the theme music during the opening credits (which is also animated very well by the special effects department) and enjoyed the derivation of the original TOS theme tune. I can see myself listening to the soundtrack of this series on a regular basis when it is eventually released. It will be good to add this to my Star Trek music collection.
I thought that it was unfortunate that the writers decided to put in to canon the fact that the Gorn use human corpses as ‘birthing sacks’. This is not a reptilian trait that I am aware of and is more appropriate for an insectoid species. Perhaps this series will reimagine the Gorn as insects such as the Zarbi, or maybe they are like the Xindi and the Gorn Federation has many evolutions such as aquatics and avians etc. too? This could explain not seeing the reptilian Gorn until Arena.
I liked how the writer’s so closely linked this 23rd century series in with it’s partner show, Discovery. I hope that we get to see some crossovers over the coming seasons.
The acting was of a high standard, and I look forward to getting to know all of these characters as they seem quite likeable at the moment.
Finally, why was Spock running amok and engaging in intimate relations out of wedlock and his 7 year Pon Far cycle? Or am I mistaken and he has already been married off? Has there ever been an instance of him breaking with traditions like this before? We can not include the Genesis incident with Saavik, that all resulted from an uncontrollable chain of events and without Saavik’s intervention surely Spock would have died of his first Pon Farr?
So I give this episode 10/10 and a big thumbs up!
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I didn’t read the poll and accidentally rated this episode as terrible 10/10. Please ignore that, sorry. It’s 10/10 good or 1/10 good however you want to see it!
Maybe Vulcans or some of them believe in open marriage. It is how they justify in their mind of of keeping arranged marriage around as a tradition. They don't want their people to feel like they are trapped in a marriage set up for them when they are just kids. Might even be a new thing they have started to embrace once they decided mind melds were also okay to do.
Vulcans aren't robots. They have biological needs. Casual sex in a committed relationship is just logical.
(I always wanted to write that on a Star Trek forum. Nerds.)
Have you seen Blackkklansman? Django Unchained?
I think those movies did a good job at exploring white supremacists as humans. Cruel, fucked up garbage humans. But humans. There's a lesson to be learned about humanity in there somewhere.
(I always wanted to write that on a Star Trek forum. Nerds.
)Have you seen Blackkklansman? Django Unchained?
I think those movies did a good job at exploring white supremacists as humans. Cruel, fucked up garbage humans. But humans. There's a lesson to be learned about humanity in there somewhere.
That makes for a good story. But as a teaching lesson it's kind of a bad one, the big lesson in there is "blind obedience", not critical thinking.
I think perhaps you missed the course designation ... "English Comprehension"
The actual lesson was pay attention to what Life throws at you and never assume you know exactly what's going on.
Also..., Actually READ AND COMPREHEND the Instructions.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with "blind obedience".
If that is what you took away from that, then you also completely missed the point.
A really good first outing: engaging, a distinctly Trekkie feel and hit a lot of the right notes. I'm a fan.
A few lesser misfires: using the Trump footage made Trek a bit unnecessarily political (cringe) and felt like a whack over the head with the message. Changing Kyle's ethnicity felt a bit silly (why not cast the actor in a new role?). Some of the special effects are a bit OTT - the warp effect felt like every room had a "discotheque" set of windows, and sometimes the locations on the ship are just too overdone to feel like tangibly real places (how different from TNG's birth, where the creators wanted more natural textures to make it feel like somewhere real people lived and worked).
But not enough to take away from great characterisation, good dialogue, strong adherence to Star Trek's USPs without compromising, a captivating plot and enough mysteries left unsaid (even if La'an did do a bit of an infodump on her entire backstory). Performances were largely excellent.
Fingers crossed this level of quality is kept or exceeded!
A few lesser misfires: using the Trump footage made Trek a bit unnecessarily political (cringe) and felt like a whack over the head with the message. Changing Kyle's ethnicity felt a bit silly (why not cast the actor in a new role?). Some of the special effects are a bit OTT - the warp effect felt like every room had a "discotheque" set of windows, and sometimes the locations on the ship are just too overdone to feel like tangibly real places (how different from TNG's birth, where the creators wanted more natural textures to make it feel like somewhere real people lived and worked).
But not enough to take away from great characterisation, good dialogue, strong adherence to Star Trek's USPs without compromising, a captivating plot and enough mysteries left unsaid (even if La'an did do a bit of an infodump on her entire backstory). Performances were largely excellent.
Fingers crossed this level of quality is kept or exceeded!
Dude,do you even Star Trek? "Whack over the head" is a feature, not a bug.
Who says it's the same Kyle?
Trek has been "cringe political" since at bare minimum 1966. If you're complaining now then you must be like Mr. Short Term Memory from SNL.
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