Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[cooleddie74]

The two Burton movies and the two Schumacher movies are actually the same continuity with Alfred, Commissioner Gordon and later Robin unifying them. The art direction changes drastically from 1992 to 1995 and then through 1997 but it's the same linear history.

 

[Belz...]

Has anyone ever considered this to be a good thing?

Changing from Billy Dee Williams to anything is never a good thing.

 

[fireproof78]

I'd still put Emissary over this one, and definitely The Cage as my personal favourite Trek pilot.


You have my sympathies.

The Cage is the best.

As for Batman Forever, meh. Never cared for the Burton Batman so it was not really for me anyway.

 

[Belz...]

As for Batman Forever, meh. Never cared for the Burton Batman so it was not really for me anyway.

 

[valkyrie013]

Hmm, liked it.
Kinda took the Gorn first contact in Arena and threw it out the airlock.. And by a good margin, 30 years or so!
Love the cast, but there is a Canon violation!!
Spock has a hairy chest in Tos!! Come on!!

Honestly enjoyed it few quibbles aside.. And still detest the warp speed /hyperspace .. Ugh..

 

[Belz...]

Kinda took the Gorn first contact in Arena and threw it out the airlock.. And by a good margin, 30 years or so!

No, Arena is eight years away, give or take.
But they took some pains to make this "first contact" to be more of an unconfirmed rumour.

And still detest the warp speed /hyperspace .. Ugh..

On the other hand the classic warp effects were pretty lame. The 2009 effect was very hyperspace-y, but this Picard/SNW effect is pretty nice, I think.

 

[fireproof78]

Adam West for the win, old chum!

And by a good margin, 30 years or so!

30 years? WTF? This is maybe 12 years before TOSish, maybe. And it's not established that this is the first contact with the Gorn in arena. Only that the area is "unknown" and that Kirk and crew don't immediately recognize it, not that the Federation never had encountered it before.

Edit: Ninja'd by @Belz... and with a better approximation of time.

 

[dinzy]

Why is this poll reversed? I just rated this below every other episode of Trek. Pure shit sandwich with extra puke aioli.

This was an OK intro. It had baggage that made it better for a fan than non fan. But holy shit was this the best looking Trek ever! And the plot was good. It was fucking great 90s Trek. But hey, I gave it the shit sandwich with extra puke aioli with a side of fried dead rat rating because I am drunk and confused. I gave Picard a higher/lower better rating than this, but I am not going to feel the loss of Picard for a year due to this show.

 

[valkyrie013]

Uh.. La'an encountered them as a kid. When Una rescued her, so add 10-20 years from now and add 8 years from here to Arena.
So rough 30 I guess.
And La'an would have given a discription if whom and then theres the gorn skull in Lorcas room.
Starfleet knew.

 

[Belz...]

Adam West for the win, old chum!

...not sure I get the joke, but just mentioning Adam We is good for me.

30 years? WTF? This is maybe 12 years before TOSish, maybe.

The year is 2259 and Arena is 2267 approx.

Uh.. La'an encountered them as a kid. When Una rescued her, so add 10-20 years from now and add 8 years from here to Arena.
So rough 30 I guess.

I stand corrected. But do we know how old she was back then? I'll have to watch it again.

 

[thribs]

The person who made the thread made a mistake. Apparently it’s a big deal to some people here.

 

[cooleddie74]

The whole "first contact has been violated thing" has already been visited twice in 21st century Trek. The Ferengi in 2151(204 years before official first contact at the Battle of Maxia Zeta) and the Borg in 2153(140 years before the El-Aurian refugees seen in GEN and roughly 200 years before the Hansen Expedition to study the Borg, and that was also before official first contact in 2365). This isn't our first dance with "did they or didn't they meet this species" and none of them have been violated nor broken canon.

 

[Harpsichord]

The person who made the thread made a mistake. Apparently it’s a big deal to some people here.

The idea of first place being best, second place being second best, and so on.. seems to be hard to grasp for some people?

 

[The Habs Fan]

I loved this episode. Don’t have more to add than what has already been discussed in this thread. What a time to be a Trek fan!

 

[Mr Awe]

"Your logic is flawed" isn't some mental breakdown. It's a statement of fact. That you don't like it doesn't entitle you to psychoanalyse people.


Again, that doesn't follow. You're assuming that any nuclear exchange would use their entire stockpile. We don't even know who the participants were or what the events leading up to it were.

LOL. whose logic is broken here?

I said it was a limited nuclear war because most people survived vs. everyone dying. And now you're saying that I'm assuming they'd use their entire stockpile.

Reading comprehension man!

I'm saying exactly the opposite. Clearly, they didn't use their entire stockpiles! That's why most people lived.

Maybe you need to step away from the keyboard for awhile?

 

[Belz...]

Why is this poll reversed? I just rated this below every other episode of Trek. Pure shit sandwich with extra puke aioli.

You can change your choice after the fact.

 

[fireproof78]

Why is this poll reversed?

It was an accident by the original poster.

...not sure I get the joke, but just mentioning Adam We is good for me.

That was Batman's nickname for Robin:

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Kinda took the Gorn first contact in Arena and threw it out the airlock..

Wasn't first contact in Arena.

 

[Belz...]

LOL. whose logic is broken here?

Your conclusion doesn't follow from the premises. That's what "logic" means.

I said it was a limited nuclear war because most people survived vs. everyone dying. And now you're saying that I'm assuming they'd use their entire stockpile.

You can have a global nuclear war without using your entire arsenal and killing everybody. Speaking of reading comprehension, it helps to actually read what I post.

Maybe you need to step away from the keyboard for awhile?

Maybe you need to stop being a dick.

 

[Mr Awe]

The 600,000 did not refer to human population, but plants and species, a third of humanity died that would be over 2 billion people

Agreed. I misremembered the quote. Yes, 2 billion is a huge number. My only point was that it isn't total nuclear war where no one at all would survive. The US and USSR each have the ability to destroy the world many times over. Clearly, in a total nuclear war, the human race would be extinct. WW3 in the Prime timeline wasn't a total nuclear war. Yeah, I'm sure it sucked bad . . . to put it mildly!

 

[valkyrie013]

Uh.. La'an encountered them as a kid. When Una rescued her, so add 10-20 years from now and add 8 years from here to Arena.
So rough 30 I guess.
And La'an would have given a discription if whom and then theres the gorn skull in Lorcas room.
Starfleet knew.

...not sure I get the joke, but just mentioning Adam We is good for me.


The year is 2259 and Arena is 2267 approx.


I stand corrected. But do we know how old she was back then? I'll have to watch it again.

Una was an ensign, a commander now, .. And La'an is a Lt now, so id say 10 years minimum. No date was given. So just a guess. I'll have to rewatch Arena see what they sat/do again.
Nothing Earth shattering including them but details are details.