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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

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I know he likes dramatic, but I still don't see how Q was trying to help Picard with his mommy issues with everything that happened. If they'd skipped that entire storyline, we'd have probably been far better off.

So, for the crew of the Stargazer, wouldn't there be more concern over the captain and drunk lady they'd been dealing with just disappearing?

The Borgati face was really, really badly done.
 
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I don't understand why you're focusing on all the nonsensical plot points leading up to the touching & sentimental final moments between Picard and Q. It's the final episode - they stuck the landing and that's all that matters, not the preceding episodes. How we meandered to this point or whether it makes any sense is irrelevant.

The magic of this season of Picard is it was never about plot, or logic, or coherence. This was about Q giving Picard a final gift before he died ... died of, you know. Hold on - why was he dying again? Ah see - I did too, trying to make sense of it. I might go, where's the rest of The Q? His wife and son? Does this contradict Voyager's Death Wish which addressed the Q's state of permanence an inability to die. No no ... these are questions of a fool trying to make sense of something transcendent.

Just let the sublime experience wash over you. Don't think about it - that isn't the writers' intent.

How sad is it that I assumed you were serious for good few seconds before the joke finally clicked?? :lol:
 
The Project Khan folder was clearly meant to established the Soong family interest in genetics and pass the torch to the Next Generation, or in this case, Enterprise. ;) The file name is rather too specific to actually have anything to do with Khan Noonien Singh or the Eugenics Wars. It's obviously named after Khan Noonien Singh.

Considering the dates on tab of the folder, 1992-1996, Project Khan may have been something Adam Soong was working on in collaboration with Khan and his regime.
 
I know he likes dramatic, but I still don't see how Q was trying to help Picard with his mommy issues with everything that happened. If they'd skipped that entire storyline, we'd have probably been far better off.

So, for the crew of the Stargazer, did they realize that the captain and drunk lady they'd been dealing with just disappeared?
Probably like Yesteryear.
 
Considering the dates on tab of the folder, 1992-1996, Project Khan may have been something Adam Soong was working on in collaboration with Khan and his regime.

Huh good eye, I was only focusing on the date on the cover, but yeah the tab says 92 - 06.07.96, with the Month and Day of 1992 obscured.
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So, for the crew of the Stargazer, wouldn't there be more concern over the captain and drunk lady they'd been dealing with just disappearing?
Yes? One of them even asked Picard where Rios is. Pay attention.
 
I also thought All Good Things closed the book on Picard and Q pretty well. I got the feeling they were trying to outdo or at least trying to create a scene between Picard and Q here that had the same impact as the TNG finale did. Ultimately, it just fell flat, I thought.

Q stating that the trial never ends seems to have been interpreted by these writers as a hint that he could return and just continue what was started on TNG.

No.

It just meant that the Continuum would always be watching, not, maybe he'll return one day and torment Jean-Luc some more.
 
It just meant that the Continuum would always be watching, not, maybe he'll return one day and torment Jean-Luc some more.
It doesn't say either way. You'd have to ask the writers of AGT what they meant, if anything.

It's basically this series' version of this scene:

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Yeah I agree
 
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I know he likes dramatic, but I still don't see how Q was trying to help Picard with his mommy issues with everything that happened. If they'd skipped that entire storyline, we'd have probably been far better off.

So, for the crew of the Stargazer, wouldn't there be more concern over the captain and drunk lady they'd been dealing with just disappearing?


The Borgati face was really, really badly done.

With the Borg on the ship? No.
 
I also thought All Good Things closed the book on Picard and Q pretty well. I got the feeling they were trying to outdo or at least trying to create a scene between Picard and Q here that had the same impact as the TNG finale did. Ultimately, it just fell flat, I thought.

Q stating that the trial never ends seems to have been interpreted by these writers as a hint that he could return and just continue what was started on TNG.

No.

It just meant that the Continuum would always be watching, not, maybe he'll return one day and torment Jean-Luc some more.

Honestly, the final scene between them felt more way more like a behind the scenes of the actor Patrick Stewart saying goodbye to John de Lancie than any type of realistic goodbye between Captain Picard/Q (at least to me anyway)
 
It was quite an ending. I don't know if I would characterize it as satisfying, but there was a lot going on, and I'll admit it had a little more substance than the penultimate episode.

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Talinn's death felt rehearsed. Ok she's meant to die, but like she couldn't come up with a way to stop Soong other than by portraying a fake Renee that gets killed by him? Was she under orders not to harm him too?

It was nice to see Wil Wheaten reprise the role of Wesley Crusher, but I'm not sure how I feel about the Travelers' role in all this. Weren't they supposed to be passive observers, like the Watchers from the Marvel Universe? Funnily enough, I saw "Journey's End" yesterday not knowing about this cameo, and when Wesley asks the Traveler about the situation on the colony settled by the indigenous group, the Traveler comments that people will eventually work to solve their own problems. That doesn't strike me as a species that feels the need to get involved in galactic affairs. But then Wesley talks about balance, so presumably the Travelers feel they don't have to get involved in every conflict...for reasons of cosmic balance?

I also don't know how to feel about Jurati/Borg Queen. So they have created their own collective, akin to a less malevolent Think Tank. I guess they've managed to avoid being spotted by the malignant Borg Collective for centuries. But they've also become aware of this new threatening force, just in time for Season 3.

The scenes between JL and Q were touching, but I'm not sure I would have hugged Q. After all, in Q Who, he is partially responsible for the death of 2 crewmen. That being said, I would have liked more explanation as to what is happening with the Continuum. It seemed the Q were dying of some external cause, but it's only briefly touched upon in the second episode and never again. I feel Q was trying to teach Picard the same lesson about choices and letting go of the past, a lesson he had already taught him in Tapestry (which I think is the better story to be honest).

I interpreted the "Project: Khan" folder as leading to the eventual creation of Khan Singh, but I suppose it could have also been an attempt to create more Augments. After all, it is called the Eugenics Wars, so there could have been multiple conflicts against augments. Maybe WW3 is a part of the broader Eugenics Wars.

The scene in the bar was sweet, maybe a bit saccharin like Discovery season 4's ending (specifically the bit with Booker's "rescue") but I guess it always nice to end on a positive note.

Picard gets a redo with Laris, but we're getting Crusher back next season so...:shrug:
 
After seeing this scene where Seven takes command of the Stargazer, I so want a Seven spin-off where she is captain of the Stargazer. I would watch the heck out of that show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1522221782220288000

I don't know about a spin-off but Seven is totally going to be the captain of whatever ship we are on next season.

But I am so disappointed Picards love of his life wasn’t Beverley.

The scene between Laris and Picard is some what ambiguous and
Orla Brady appeared on today's Ready Room and suggested we should read into this scene as Laris/Picard becoming an item
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So, can anyone tell me what was the point of that one episode when Picard and Guinan are arrested by the FBI guy? The FBI guy who encountered visiting Vulcans as a kid?
 
I think at this point it can be taken as stated that the various historical discrepancies we now have (including the whopper in Soong’s folder and the possible lack of a 1990s Eugenics Wars) are due to that one time Wesley erred.

And Strange New Worlds appears to confirm a slightly altered background history (it’s background, not a spoiler): the current cultural conflict we’re in right now eventually builds into the 2nd American Civil War, which eventually builds into the Eugenics Wars (so not the 1990s anymore), which eventually builds into World War III. So if you like some terrifyingly ominous with your optimism, there you are.

In short, we’d better hope it’s an alternate history.
 
And Strange New Worlds appears to confirm a slightly altered background history (it’s background, not a spoiler): the current cultural conflict we’re in right now eventually builds into the 2nd American Civil War, which eventually builds into the Eugenics Wars (so not the 1990s anymore), which eventually builds into World War III. So if you like some terrifyingly ominous with your optimism, there you are.

In short, we’d better hope it’s an alternate history.
Trek has done this for a while.
 
They really needed Number One to move between Jean-Luc and Laris and start wagging his tail before the camera panned upward to the stars.
 
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