Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

[Romulan_spy]

After seeing this scene where Seven takes command of the Stargazer, I so want a Seven spin-off where she is captain of the Stargazer. I would watch the heck out of that show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1522221782220288000

 

[Methuselah Flint]

Q's meddling was an attempt to make Renee fail and bring about the Confederation. He tried using his powers on her to make her bail on the mission. Then he tried using therapy sessions! Finally, he tried to get Soong to kill Renee! If any of those had succeeded, it would've caused the Confederation timeline.

In a timeline without meddling, Talinn would've made sure that Renee completed her mission. No Q needed. But, no, Q consistently didn't want Renee to succeed.

I guess we could interpret it that the first two attempts were so Picard was forced to intervene/talk/open up - which he eventually does, albeit briefly, with Renee. The hit and run by Soong could be put down to his misinterpreting the meaning of what Q meant.

Then again, perhaps Q wasn't playing Devil's advocate and indeed wanted to change the future. It all seems a bit unclear. His motives in Farewells reveal this all to be about young Picard, but he is not involved in that aspect of the story.

 

[GeorgeKirk]

A line I guarantee will be in the next RedLetterMedia video:

"My favorite part was when Picard deliberately left that key where his younger self could find it and let his mom out of her room to commit suicide! How uplifting! Now he's free to fall in love! I cried butterfly tears!"

 

[gweeps]

Also grabbed from Trekmovie:

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[Amaris]

It seems that whatever good will be drowned in controversy. However, it sounds like it resonated with the people who needed it.

...

This. I 100% needed this season, as silly as that might seem to some folks. I enjoyed it, especially on the emotional level, and it is my favorite season of Picard so far.

 

[Kraig]

They didn't explain how Guinan of 2024 is not aware of Picard from 19 century when she met him there.

Wasn't that explained by Guinan in the scene near the end in 10 Forward? "I'm sorry I couldn't tell you sooner. I just knew that if I guided you right, set you straight, you'd circle around eventually." Then thanked Picard for setting her straight first. I took that to mean when she was about to close the bar in 2024 and he changed her mind in the episode "Watcher."

Also 21st century Guinan may not visually recognize someone she met briefly 170 years earlier who has physically aged 25 years since then. When she realized who Picard was she took him to meet the Watcher.

 

[gweeps]

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"See you out there." Same thing he said at the end of TNG's series finale.

I got chills when Picard hugs him.

I think Q knew his meddling in the timeline wouldn't cause any irreparable damage.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

"See you out there." Same thing he said at the end of TNG's series finale.

I got chills when Picard hugs him.

I think Q knew his meddling in the timeline wouldn't cause any irreparable damage.

You too, huh?

 

[jackoverfull]

“Perfunctory” is the only word that comes to mind. Not particularly exciting episode and rather prevedibile too, the only thing that took me by surprise was the appearance of Wesley crusher.

So the Jurati borg were there all along and never supplanted the normal ones, apparently.

Yet another galaxy-threatening spacial anomaly coming out of the blue. Yawn.

I think that Talin’s death was unnecessary qnd quite avoidable. But yet again, she has been a totally superfluous character anyway.

So Soong created Khan many years before? Or he’s going to create him now? The file seemed pretty old…

Basically an episode to close all the various threads in the most serviceable and straightforward way, ending a season that had a very strong start and then just drifted on autopilot most of the time.

7

 

[DaveyNY]

How did he redeem the borg? Wouldn't changing the borg in the past make seven no exist?

Q's interference caused Picard & Gang to become aware of the existence of the Confederation timeline.
(just like he made Picard aware of the Borg)
When all was said and done, Q returned everybody back to the starting point with a few modifications...
Including the Juarti Borg still existing separate from the Prime Timeline Borg.

 

[Romulan_spy]

So Soong created Khan many years before? Or he’s going to create him now? The file seemed pretty old…

I think it is implied that Soong created Khan years before. The date on the folder is 1996, the year of the Eugenics Wars.

 

[fireproof78]

So Soong created Khan many years before? Or he’s going to create him now? The file seemed pretty old…

Wasn't he a geneticist anyway? And wasn't his descendant in ENT doing genetic engineering as well? I think it was a way to show how Arik got the way that he did.

 

[Kelso]

After seeing this scene where Seven takes command of the Stargazer, I so want a Seven spin-off where she is captain of the Stargazer. I would watch the heck out of that show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1522221782220288000

I had the same thought... especially with the Stargazer having incorporated Borg tech. It seems a pretty natural fit.

 

[Tuskin38]

Including the Juarti Borg still existing separate from the Prime Timeline Borg.

Which she was in Episode 1 as well.

Hiding outside of reality or whatever the hole in space she come form lead to probably kept her safe from any timeline changes.

 

[cooleddie74]

I think it is implied that Soong created Khan years before. The date on the folder is 1996, the year of the Eugenics Wars.

Yeah, he's returning to his genetics project from the 1990s, only this time illegally and without official funding.

 

[Tuskin38]

I think it is implied that Soong created Khan years before. The date on the folder is 1996, the year of the Eugenics Wars.

That's the year Khan left the planet according to TOS.

Yeah, he's returning to his genetics project from the 1990s, only this time illegally and without official funding.

I don't think they were trying to say Soong created Khan, but he had a project named after him related to him.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

After seeing this scene where Seven takes command of the Stargazer, I so want a Seven spin-off where she is captain of the Stargazer. I would watch the heck out of that show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1522221782220288000

She's got that "put-upon, reluctant leader" vibe down pat!

I'd have preferred a Seven/ Ranger show, exploring more of civilian Federation/ non-Fed life, but I'd be fine with a Stargazer sequel, too. In both cases, I'll politely ignore the fact that at the beginning f the season, she couldn't even stand more than one hologram aboard, let alone a human crew...

 

[captainkirk]

I'm glad that the majority here seem to be satisfied with the episode, I wish I could share that enjoyment.

Like the season 1 finale, the best moments are the farewell between Picard and the TNG guest character. The rest was a muddled rush to try and wrap everything up that they had plenty of time for earlier in the season.

The Project Khan file and the sudden appearance of Wesley were groan-worthy and feel more at home in amateur fan fiction.

I want to know the thought process behind this season. So the basic idea is that Q is dying and before he goes he wants to make sure Picard is happy and not alone. How did they go from that simple premise to this convoluted mess that tries to be the grand unifier of all canon?

 

[fireproof78]

I'll politely ignore the fact that at the beginning f the season, she couldn't even stand more than one hologram aboard, let alone a human crew...

Maybe she grew?

 

[Tuskin38]

'll politely ignore the fact that at the beginning f the season, she couldn't even stand more than one hologram aboard, let alone a human crew...

It's called character growth.