Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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Stayed up to watch it and wanted to watch it again immediately. That tells me I loved it. First real feel of Trek in the bunch of stuff we've been hit with since ENT was canned.
I'm still not sure wtf La'an is doing with a name like that. Feels really gimmicky but I'm guessing they're working up to an explanation at some point. I do like the character.
Pike's arc from world-weary to anticipatory was good. Anson Mount hit it out of the park as usual. The rest were just okay, so far, but the episode itself was imbued somehow with such a sense of good ole' trek that everybody was just carried along with it. I have very few complaints, esp upon seeing THE TRICORDER!
I'm also kinda tickled by the fact that they had T'Pring (played by an Indian actress) propose to Spock by "garlanding" him -- this is a very old, traditional wedding rite in India. You garland the person you marry and the person garlands you. The ring thing is western, not Indian.
Anyway, I'm actually kind of looking forward to the flirty "Nurse" Chapel here and her teasing repartee with Spock. I'm a Spock/Chapel fan... been one for a long time!
Robert April was good... and I was gobsmacked by Sam Kirk bc I totally thought that was going to be Jim Kirk (yes, I've been a good girl and stayed far away from spoilers).
All in all, a 10... or is it now a 1?! Good stuff. Let's see what else they got.
I'm still not sure wtf La'an is doing with a name like that. Feels really gimmicky but I'm guessing they're working up to an explanation at some point. I do like the character.
Pike's arc from world-weary to anticipatory was good. Anson Mount hit it out of the park as usual. The rest were just okay, so far, but the episode itself was imbued somehow with such a sense of good ole' trek that everybody was just carried along with it. I have very few complaints, esp upon seeing THE TRICORDER!
I'm also kinda tickled by the fact that they had T'Pring (played by an Indian actress) propose to Spock by "garlanding" him -- this is a very old, traditional wedding rite in India. You garland the person you marry and the person garlands you. The ring thing is western, not Indian.
Anyway, I'm actually kind of looking forward to the flirty "Nurse" Chapel here and her teasing repartee with Spock. I'm a Spock/Chapel fan... been one for a long time!
Robert April was good... and I was gobsmacked by Sam Kirk bc I totally thought that was going to be Jim Kirk (yes, I've been a good girl and stayed far away from spoilers).
All in all, a 10... or is it now a 1?! Good stuff. Let's see what else they got.
The second one is, IMO. a better script than the first episode and all kinds of amazing. And it's right-down-the-center-of-the-lane Star Trek, as well.
They played that one really adroitly, didn't they?
They played that one really adroitly, didn't they?
How many eps have you seen? And are you happy?
I see (and like) that SNW continues the trope of pre-warp humanoid civilized alien species having structures and buildings and technology that look exactly like our current present day earth. 
(Yeah I know the real-life reason is because they're filming using real world locations, but it's still hilarious to me).
(Yeah I know the real-life reason is because they're filming using real world locations, but it's still hilarious to me).Loved it.
Excellent casting.
Gorgeous cinematography. That bridge is better than the Kelvan one.
Centering on Pike's personal struggles due to his experience at the Klingon Monastery is a theme that will carry to future episodes, so it serves as an arc for the entire season and beyond perhaps.
I liked the La'An Noonien-Singh character and actor. Getting Gorn back in the story is neat.
Excellent casting.
Gorgeous cinematography. That bridge is better than the Kelvan one.
Centering on Pike's personal struggles due to his experience at the Klingon Monastery is a theme that will carry to future episodes, so it serves as an arc for the entire season and beyond perhaps.
I liked the La'An Noonien-Singh character and actor. Getting Gorn back in the story is neat.
And pot jokes.well that was excellent i'm sure the canon ''purist'' will whine about certain stuff but quite frankly screw them
it was nothing like the Orville if it was there would be a ''piss/toilet'' joke 1 minute in
I thought it was a good start. It was sort of like a bit more serious version of The Orville, and that works for me. I liked the cast, the production values, and also that this story was resolved (or seemingly) by the end of the episode and not stretched out over several or for a whole season.
I liked April, I liked the Kirk twist, I liked the Starship Archer. I liked a lot of the little nods that I was able to catch. I like the production values and design aesthetic which look more like the TOS aesthetic than what we got from DISCO at first. I even liked how they quickly established Pike in something of a relationship right off. If only ENT had done that with Archer and would've saved them from the whole Archer-T'Pol thing.
My biggest quibble is with the Noonien-Singh character still, and then they throw the Gorn into her backstory as well. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that it was Kirk's Enterprise that made first contact with them? While that still might be the case, the mention seems to imply we might be seeing them sometimes on this series, which will require some explanation. Though just in this episode, there's some fudging of Trek canon going on, by seemingly merging the Eugenics Wars with World War III. I'm also not sure how T'Pring and Spock's relationship as depicted in this episode jibes with "Amok Time," but I did like the new T'Pring.
My other very small quibble was Uhura saying "cool" at the end. That felt out of place to me, and more forced in an attempt to inject even more lightness. It felt more like something a Cadet Tilly would've said instead of Uhura. I know this will bring out legions of people to tell me that there's very little we know about Uhura when she was younger/before Kirk's Enterprise. And while that is the case, it still feels to me that a cadet, one that is as highly touted as Uhura, wouldn't be so informal like that on the bridge.
I liked April, I liked the Kirk twist, I liked the Starship Archer. I liked a lot of the little nods that I was able to catch. I like the production values and design aesthetic which look more like the TOS aesthetic than what we got from DISCO at first. I even liked how they quickly established Pike in something of a relationship right off. If only ENT had done that with Archer and would've saved them from the whole Archer-T'Pol thing.
My biggest quibble is with the Noonien-Singh character still, and then they throw the Gorn into her backstory as well. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that it was Kirk's Enterprise that made first contact with them? While that still might be the case, the mention seems to imply we might be seeing them sometimes on this series, which will require some explanation. Though just in this episode, there's some fudging of Trek canon going on, by seemingly merging the Eugenics Wars with World War III. I'm also not sure how T'Pring and Spock's relationship as depicted in this episode jibes with "Amok Time," but I did like the new T'Pring.
My other very small quibble was Uhura saying "cool" at the end. That felt out of place to me, and more forced in an attempt to inject even more lightness. It felt more like something a Cadet Tilly would've said instead of Uhura. I know this will bring out legions of people to tell me that there's very little we know about Uhura when she was younger/before Kirk's Enterprise. And while that is the case, it still feels to me that a cadet, one that is as highly touted as Uhura, wouldn't be so informal like that on the bridge.
Had some apprehensions going in; NuTrek's live-action offerings have been a prosaic and unpleasant experience.
But, I enjoyed it. As the episode progressed I found myself relaxing into it. We end the episode without a season-spanning mystery box laid before us. It's strange new worlds - let's see what's out there and have some adventures along the way. Works for me.
I liked the story. Christ, how long has it been since we had a recognisably old school / normal episode of Trek like this? Mount has no shortage of charisma; Peck's Spock will continue to grow on me. Chapel is stunning. Thumbs up for everyone else.
Best Trek pilot since TOS. This does feel like a restart of sorts. I'm interested and keen to see what's next.
So, I'll go with a 4 out of 5, which would be 8 out of 10, reverse the polarity ... I score it a 3!
But, I enjoyed it. As the episode progressed I found myself relaxing into it. We end the episode without a season-spanning mystery box laid before us. It's strange new worlds - let's see what's out there and have some adventures along the way. Works for me.
I liked the story. Christ, how long has it been since we had a recognisably old school / normal episode of Trek like this? Mount has no shortage of charisma; Peck's Spock will continue to grow on me. Chapel is stunning. Thumbs up for everyone else.
Best Trek pilot since TOS. This does feel like a restart of sorts. I'm interested and keen to see what's next.
So, I'll go with a 4 out of 5, which would be 8 out of 10, reverse the polarity ... I score it a 3!
Hmmm, I must respectfully disagree. From what I gathered during the part when Pike was explaining Earth's history of wars in the 21st century, the Eugenics Wars happened first and then WWIII happened a bit later.
I believe that while 20th century Trek materials settled on making the Constitution class just under ~300 metres in length, the Kurtzman-era team stated they specifically lengthened that by 50% to make their Constitution class model ~450 metres in length, allowing DIS season 2 to have the Enterprise reasonably size-match with Discovery, which allegedly needed a larger model length to accommodate large-width hallways for widescreen cameras.
(cough cough now don't ask me how they came up with the ridiculous dead space turbolift fight in DIS season 3, but that is a matter for a different thread)
Well make of it what you will - Pikes exact words: "Our conflict also started with a fight for freedoms. We called it the 2nd Civil War. Then the Eugenics War and then finally, just World War 3."
I've seen two, last weekend at the Paley Center in New York.
And I am over the Moon.
Liked it overall, but felt that the resolution was rushed. Plus, I didn't like the inclusion of Sam Kirk, Christine Chapel came off a bit snarky, I felt that La'an came off a bit too strong, and Una should have known better than to lay into Pike the way she did (considering the way SHE had gotten herself and her ship in a bind). Still, I am looking forward to the next episode of SNW. 8/10.
It is. I know it's hard to accept. Hell, it took me a while to accept as well. But then someone suggested something that helped me accept it: think of each Star Trek TV show and movie as an "artist's interpretation" of events that "really" happened. Here's what I mean: every Trek TV show and Trek movie we have seen up till now is basically entertainment made for citizens living in the Federation of the "real" Star Trek universe. Still with me so far? Remember that episode of Lower Decks where they were creating their own Star Trek TV show in the holodeck? Imagine every Trek show and movie we've seen so far were all made in that holodeck by the Lower Decks crew. So in essence, both TOS and the 23rd century as seen in DISCO/SNW are both "correct". They're just created by different artists who put their own unique visual touches of events that "really" happened in the Star Trek universe. In Star Trek: Prodigy there was one episode where they showed a holographic Powerpoint presentation of Starfleet's mission and they showed the NCC-1701 Enterprise as it looked like in TOS (and not the one we see in DISCO/SNW).
I hope this makes sense lol. God knows it's the only way I've been able to make sense of why TOS and DISCO/SNW look completely different.
It makes sense for you, which is good. Me? It isn’t the look, it is simply the feel of the product. Two different shows made by different people fifty years apart. They simply don’t work together.
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