Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[The Wormhole]

Perhaps not. But if Sam was former Starfleet, then why didin't we hear about this before?

Why would we? Sam was a minor character in one episode and never mentioned again. Indeed a character in Trek XI who was originally intended to be Sam was renamed Johnny at the very last minute, in post production because it was felt Sam was too obscure a character. I mean Sam's a character they couldn't even get a new actor or even background extra to play, the guy was literally Shatner with a fake 'stache.

I mean, unless you think everything said about Sam in Operation Annihilate is literally everything there ever was to know about him, I'm not sure how now establishing he once served in Starfleet is a problem in anyway.

 

[Mudd]

I imagine that Abrams decided that, given the dramatized circumstances of Kirk's birth, asking the audience to figure out where an older brother fit into the family was distracting.

 

[The Wormhole]

Honestly, I always thought they overthought the matter in Trek XI anyway. Jim could have still yelled "Hey Sam!" at the kid he drove by and the audience could just think he was just some kid named Sam. Maybe us Fans would debate whether he's supposed to be his brother or some other kid, but Fans are always going to Fan anyway.

The matter was so last minute, the novelization still calls the character Sam and identifies him as Jim's brother anyway.

 

[mswood]

Perhaps not. But if Sam was former Starfleet, then why didin't we hear about this before?

I hope you understand that TV works on the basis of telling the audience what they need for a scene or a story and rarely much more. There was no reason for Kirk to give much in the way of back story of his brother. It had no bearing on the story being told. The key points are this person is a relative, what that relation was, and why he's in the location we are currently at. And maybe some reason for any emoting that might happen later.

If X character is your lead, even in a long running show 99% of that persons life, relations and experiences are not going to be what we see or hear about on a show. The medium is not design for that. And guest characters even with connections to the lead are only going to be giving the background needed for the scene or episode at hand (unless you are deliberately dropping beats for a future story down the line).

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Sorry.

*backs away slowly*

 

[Lord Garth]

Who else has seen this already?

 

[Mudd]

Michael Okuda

@MikeOkuda[/URL]
As the person who photoshopped Gene Roddenberry's face on a photo of Captain Kirk to create a photo of Captain Robert April in the Star Trek Encyclopedia, I love Adrian Holmes being cast as Admiral April!

 

[donners22]

Memory-Alpha editors are ripping their hair out trying to figure out how they're going to reconcile April's ethnicity change.

M-A Considers TAS as canon as the rest of the franchise, and if SNW and TAS are both Prime. heh

The same way they reconcile Saavik looking like Kirstie Alley in one movie and Robin Curtis in others - a photo of both on the article, and some background info (sidenote - the background info on Saavik is insanely long).

 

[Tuskin38]

The same way they reconcile Saavik looking like Kirstie Alley in one movie and Robin Curtis in others - a photo of both on the article, and some background info (sidenote - the background info on Saavik is insanely long).

Apparently this is different some how. Don't ask me why, I don't understand it either.
One of them compared it to Ricardo Khan vs. Cumberbatch Khan.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I wish it was just neurodivergent continuity obsessives with the issue about April. But even in that case the ship sailed long ago when the Enterprise and everything else was redesigned.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Also I'm sad because I want threads that start with @Commander Richard posters

 

[Lonemagpie]

^ If you're talking about the guy with Pike and Spock on the bridge?

Can't be. Sam was never in Starfleet.

Like the Enterprise never has civilian specialists/diplomats/guests aboard...?

 

[Lonemagpie]

Who else has seen this already?

The first five episodes. I'm only scoring this one lower because I want to be able to score a couple higher...

 

[Mudd]

Since you've seen it, do you mind my asking what you thought of...

Spoiler: Plot Point

...the transporter tech solution to Spock's problem on the landing party? It seemed a real stretch to me, and was my only WTF? moment in the show. I'm thinking maybe I didnt understand it properly.

 

[gvn2fly]

Why is a 10 terrible on this poll?

 

[Mudd]

Why is a 10 terrible on this poll?

Why not?

 

[Lonemagpie]

Since you've seen it, do you mind my asking what you thought of...

Spoiler: Plot Point

...the transporter tech solution to Spock's problem on the landing party? It seemed a real stretch to me, and was my only WTF? moment in the show. I'm thinking maybe I didnt understand it properly.

Felt like the moment where they forgot this wasn't Discovery in the 32nd Century with all the programmable magic - er, matter - they have there, and were running out of runtime. And makes you wonder why they asted time with prosthetics even as late as when Beverly was applying them. But, it was just a moment, then on with the rest of the show...

Actually the biggest problem I have with it all is how come Chapel had snark and a personality before Kirk took command... What happens that she loses it all beyond fancying Spock in TOS? I don't expect an in-universe answer, it's just how characters are better handled nowadays.

 

[Mudd]

But, it was just a moment, then on with the rest of the show...

Agreed.

The eternally annoying thing about that gadget, for over half a century now, is that they pull something out of a hat and forever after when they encounter a similar plot problem you have fans asking "Why don't they just do what they did that one time?"

 

[ananta]

Can someone fix the poll numbers? whoever created the poll has decided that 1 means excellent and 10 means terrible. That’s just confusing.

 

[tenmei]

Can someone fix the poll numbers? whoever created the poll has decided that 1 means excellent and 10 means terrible. That’s just confusing.

Sounds fine to me as it clearly states the rank system.