Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Keep in mind that this La Sirena is Confed tech. We know General Picard got transferred into a synth body and it may be routine in their timeline. Thus, the scan of Elnor.

That could be, but it doesn't really need to be. The prime La Sirena already comes with the brain scan tech to create the Rios holograms. I'd assume that's where the idea came from in the first place. Connecting this tech to the synth bodies would imply that they are duplicating consciousness which I doubt is what the Elnor hologram is.

 

[jackoverfull]

Another great episode, but was it dark? Really dark. Solo dark.

In any case, I like how things are adding up and the attention to detail that shows, I like this take on the borg and finally seven is doing something more.

The things I didn’t like: the elnorgram seems really far fetched and Picard’s mother’s suicide is something I hoped was not what it seemed.
Also, Talin is *still* a superfluous character. The little she did could have been done by guinan or seven and little would have changed.

Notes….

How much money/ leeway soong has? Those are MANY mercenaries! Well, they said he is rich.

So what’s the juratiqueen plan now? Get control of the 21st century collective and turn it in the new thing she was talking about?

This timeline seems pretty compromised by now, with dozens of people whose lives have been dramatically changed or ended. I guess there will be a reset at some point.

I’m surprised that the finale will start with our people still stranded in the past, with nothing really that solved. And with a new mystery/riddle as well. I wonder if it will be a longer episode.

Giving an 8. Might be a bit less, but 8 will do.

 

[gweeps]

I don't know about anybody else, but I keep forgetting this season takes place over 3-4 days.

 

[Noname Given]

This episode was chock full of payoff going back to the first episode. The two things you mentioned are totally irrelevant to the seasonal arc, so it's not surprising they aren't dealt with well here.

I honestly feel like the "holo-emitter" may have just been a production goof on the part of the costume team. I went back and checked, and even in the first episode, when Seven and Emmett are kicking the pirates' asses, he has no holo-emitter. So it's not even like they "forgot" how the holos worked from last season. Just look at it as some crap the hologram had pasted to him, nothing less, and nothing more. Maybe holos just need to have that on their arm to signify they are holos in the Confederation?

As for the whole "DNA lock" thing, it was a stupid line/twist, but it's the kind of thing you forget about in a few minutes as the story moves on.

The Holo emitter was because that the Hologram was not being generated by something directly connected to the ship's systems. Remember, Gerarti locked herself and the Borg Queen out of the La Sirena's main system so that system wouldn't be able to project a hologram while she's locked out. Remember she said she planned this so at some point she created a hilo projector using data collected from Elnor and put the fractal unlock code into its memory as well.

 

[Photoman15]

Overall great episode. We are starting to see some payoff for earlier in the season.


I (sort of) agree that the exploding phaser was a miss. I would have rather if that had been a bluff and the phaser just not worked. (However, I am on the fence with this as a Starfleet phaser shouldn't explode but we really don't know the source of the phasers on the La Sirena).

Number One set her phaser on overload to stop the Talosians from capturing more "specimens" in the future. I believe TNG phasers have settings for overloads too. Rios probably set the Security setting from:
DNA Non-match
[ ] Does not fire
[X] Explodes

Honestly, the whole "beamed into a wall" thing is ridiculous anyway. Even if it were possible, two atoms cannot have electron shells that close together, so it would trigger some sort of explosion.

You realize transporters take the atoms at the site location to reassemble a person/object, right?

 

[Amaris]

Highs:
* Seven will always be extraordinary.
* No one in Star Trek can ham it up like Brent Spiner. No one.
* Agnes Jurati: Torch Singer, Devil in a Red Dress, Communist Synthesizer.

Lows:
* While necessary to unpack all that there was to unpack, some of the sequences slowed down too much for what was taking place in a battle. I get why, it's just I noticed.

Ruminations:
This one kind of broke my heart, seeing what happened to Yvette Picard, and how it affected both Robert, and more deeply it affected Jean-Luc. Such a traumatic event for such a little boy to have to deal with. It's no wonder Jean-Luc chased after the stars, hoping to see their brilliance up close while they're alive and radiating that brilliance.

This season has touched on such deep and running themes: death, loss, self-flagellation, standing before two paths: choose one that leads toward control by fear, ensuring no one you love needs ever die, or one through open cooperation, relinquishing that power into the hands of others, giving them trust, compassion, kindness, showing them that it is better to work together out of a mutual desire to build something greater, something that benefits everyone, that no one need die because they lacked what they needed, whether it be material, or a social connection.

There were some minor quibbles, but I feel the message underneath this season has been strong enough that those little foibles can be ignored. I love a good story, I love good characters, and I think Picard season 2 has done a solid job carrying both. Obviously, some will disagree, but that is their path to follow. I will be who I will be, and see what I will see, and work it out from there, just as they must do.

So this episode gets a 9/10.

Next week we see how it all comes together, and I'm hoping for something really good. I want this season to end on a strong note.

 

[GeorgeKirk]

This is not a particularly good show. But the line about rewinding the past to turn tragic endings into hopeful beginnings and moments of loss into moments of gain really resonated with me on a deeply personal level.

 

[Captrek]

I don't know about anybody else, but I keep forgetting this season takes place over 3-4 days.

No matter how much knowledge Q may retain, how can he physically synthesize those Kore cures so quickly without his powers?

 

[fireproof78]

This is not a particularly good show. But the line about rewinding the past to turn tragic endings into hopeful beginnings and moments of loss into moments of gain really resonated with me on a deeply personal level.

I like that. So much anxiety resolves around trying to control the past.

 

[Noname Given]

Honestly, the whole "beamed into a wall" thing is ridiculous anyway. Even if it were possible, two atoms cannot have electron shells that close together, so it would trigger some sort of explosion.

It wouldn't create an explosion, it would just create the Brundle-wall (Which is what was shown.)

 

[Airmandan]

So, what exactly was the point of assimilating the mercenaries? Cause it seemed to accomplish nothing for them. Lasers on weapons look cool, but in real life are extremely stupid for what was depicted. How would a guy from the 24th century know how to operate a Luger pistol? Having a phaser that is DNA locked and turns into an extremely inefficient hand grenade seems like a really stupid design.

Nice to see that the sun finally came up in Europe, somehow they must have slowed down the rotation of the planet due to global warming in this timeline.

Still not really sure what the point of the Picard's mother storyline is supposed to be. Just seems to be a cheap way to fill episode time.

 

[gweeps]

No matter how much knowledge Q may retain, how can he physically synthesize those Kore cures so quickly without his powers?

Had some theories.

1) He can do things for himself. But not against others. And he obviously still has some temporal awareness because he knew somebody had summoned him.

2) He planted a lot of things around 21st century Earth in this altered timeline as he altered it, suspecting he wouldn't have his powers for much longer, but unsure of what that actually meant, which also confused him.

3) It serves the writers' plots to have him just doing things, letting us to fill in the blanks.

Sidenote, please please please let Tallinn meet Q. Aside from Picard, she seems the most interested in him. Also, Raffi needs to meet him, too. But for other reasons.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Had some theories.

1) He can do things for himself. But not against others. And he obviously still has some temporal awareness because he knew somebody had summoned him.

2) He planted a lot of things around 21st century Earth in this altered timeline as he altered it, suspecting he wouldn't have his powers for much longer, but unsure of what that actually meant, which also confused him.

3) It serves the writers' plots to have him just doing things, letting us to fill in the blanks.

Sidenote, please please please let Tallinn meet Q. Aside from Picard, she seems the most interested in him. Also, Raffi needs to meet him, too. But for other reasons.

Raffi should go full "teh Sisko" on Q and punch him square in the mouth.

 

[Yistaan]

From TNG episode Family--

Robert: I was always your brother, watching you receive the cheers, watching you break every rule our father made and get away with it.
Picard: Why didn't you break a few rules?
Robert: Because I was the elder brother, the responsible one. It was my job to look after you.

So after all these years as vicious as Robert was in this episode he was actually pulling punches (from his perspective) on Jean-Luc. Because we now know he means that Jean-Luc broke the rule not to let Yvette out, she died, and Jean-Luc got away with it, and Robert didn't just come out and say it.

 

[KennyB]

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[Tosk]

I found this episode to be very clumsy, but my fave "silly moment" might be JuratiQueen saying "You can't hide forever" while walking past an open door to a room that they do not search.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

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[IMC Headquarters]

I love how Soong goes all Bond Villain: "Goodbye Picard." Yeah. Sure. We all know how that turns out!

Brent Spiner is clearly relishing his role this year.

 

[fireproof78]

I love how Soong goes all Bond Villain: "Goodbye Picard." Yeah. Sure. We all know how that turns out!

Brent Spiner is clearly relishing his role this year.

When you get the opportunity to go full Bond villain you go full Bond villain.

 

[gweeps]

The mercs didn't seem much like Borg drones. Maybe they were still in the process of being assimilated.