Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x08 - "Mercy"
- Thread starter Commander Richard
- Start date
Seven is in the wrong body so she should not know how to fight well anymore now that she is lighter, weaker and far more fragile.
As I said, it was but one example. There are plenty of clumsy attempts at allegories for modern social issues - Retrospect, Nothing Human and Critical Care just off the top of my head are just a few from Voyager alone. Even the much-lauded Far Beyond the Stars is mostly just a straightforward depiction of relatively modern racism.
Star Trek is riddled with unsubtle allegories for modern issues. I don't see how a depiction of one in its proper era is so objectionable, and couching the objection in the assertion that Trek hasn't done such unsubtle depictions before is just false.
She's has her Federation timeline memories, so what would being in a different body have to do with her martial knowledge?
It's also a much slower process with many little steps where you can check reactions and adjust or abort. How do they react to a hovering ship? Ok, proceed with landing. Do they freak out yet? Ok, now open the doors...
Explains so much.
On the subject of Vulcans and transporters found this post from 2009 in thread called Did the Vulcans have transporters?
Kir'Shara said:
I don’t have any problem with them tackling modern issues, I just wish they had an interesting take on them. Instead we get these drive bys where they devote one or two sentences to each topic as they go down a “woke” checklist. I don’t even know how people can call it “preaching” when all they are doing is briefly acknowledging these issues exist. I don’t find it objectionable but it also doesn’t do anything for me. Like, talk about climate change all you want but draw me in and make it interesting.
Because she doesn't have 40 pounds of metal in her, to use as weight to push people around or take a punch, or resist being pushed over, or ignore some %uck trying to judo flip her who thinks she only weighs 120 pounds when she really weighs 160 pounds. Or when she tries to jump kick flip some one in the face, she jumps too high because she is 40 pounds lighter than she thinks she is and completely misses her target, not that she can jump that high anymore without Borg enhancement, because she doesn't have servos enhancing her strength to the point that she can punch through concrete.
She doesn't have nanoprobes producing adrenaline or electrostimulating her muscles then she can't punch through concrete and she'll need the nanoprobes anyway to repair her shattered fist, and flesh tears, as it fails to punch through a concrete wall.
She trained to fight using a martial art that understood everyone was weaker and slower and more fragile than she was. Similar to how you would beat up a 10 year year old. How you beat the living shit out of a ten year old is not going to work on a 25 year old, or a 50 year old. It's a completely different skill set.
Functionally I only mean that it will take her time to relearn to fight now that she is lighter, weaker, slower, and less resilient. Give her 6 months to figure out what works and what does not work and she should be able to kill a man a little bigger and little stronger than she is with ease.
She shouldn't even be able to walk.
Hey?
Remember when you broke your arm, and you had a cast for 3 months, and when you took the cast off, it felt like your arm so light that it just wanted to float away?
Last edited:
I've never had a broken bone, so no casts. Can't relate
As for Seven. I will assume her martial arts training isn't just about being stronger and faster. And did her remaining implants really weigh 40 pounds? Never got that impression on Voyager.
The Borg ... ADAPT.
Seven isn't stupid. She's managed to both drive a car and wheedle information out of a barroom employee.
I trust her to take care of herself.
I'm glad people like this show, but it is really a chore at this point to watch. I'll finish it out cause I got this far. This should have been a 2 or 3 parter and that's it. All of the filler culminated with the fbi agent side story. We're talking Shades of Grey filler material here.
Then Guinan jumps the shark with her teleporting with a bloody nose to show how dangerous it is, just to tell Picard that the guy has issues. Ugh
Then Guinan jumps the shark with her teleporting with a bloody nose to show how dangerous it is, just to tell Picard that the guy has issues. Ugh
Teleporting?
The part where she appeared to Picard. Whatever you want to call it. Just laughable
Maybe I'll need to watch again, But it's not ringing any bells. They were in a room together for most of the episode. I remember her getting a nose bleed when doing some sort of El-Aurian mumbo jumbo, but nothing about teleporting.
She was in another room because they were conveniently separated. And she figured that he had a past. So she somehow did a Luke Skywalker from the Last Jedi and appeared to Picard to tell him that. But she was getting a nose bleed to show that it was dangerous or something.
I guess I need to watch it again.
The nose bleed trope is pretty common. Especially when using mental powers. Not particularly laughable. Just over used.
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll
