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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x08 - "Mercy"

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Well, when you put it that way. But if you explain to people that WW3 will usher in a time of unprecedented peace, democracy and prosperity. Humans will get over their nationalistic prejudices. Earth will be a paradise with no disease, no national wars, and no poverty. Humans will peacefully explore the galaxy and be one of the founders of a federation of like minded species that bring peace, prosperity and rights to billions, then it is an easy sell.
Ok, Edith Keeler ;)
 
We don't know that WWIII didn't also happen in the Confederation timeline though. We just know Earth turning to Soong to solve the global warming crisis did - which really sounds like a stretch LOL
 
We don't know that WWIII didn't also happen in the Confederation timeline though. We just know Earth turning to Soong to solve the global warming crisis did - which really sounds like a stretch LOL
As opposed to one person keeping the US out of WW2 resulting in a Nazi victory and no Starfleet?

This series lives on stretching everything.
 
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This is a very well produced and informative video and I think it should be posted in the "Should Trek be 'our' future or an alternate future" thread as proof that we should all be grateful that we are not currently living in the Star Trek timeline.
 
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I really liked this show alot and The scene with Guinan and Q was good that she finally found found out Q'S secret and the fact Picard went back in time and things aren't going according to his plans. An Alison Pill is hitting it out of the park as a wanna be Borg Queen and how good she was adding Annie Weschings mannerism s to her character as the Queen.I'm glad we got to see Agnes stopped herself from harming Raffi and Seven. I did the like the story with the FbI agent wasn't a villian. I liked Brent Spiner as Adam Soong being ruthless and Cold when he acts like a god to Create Kore and the Super Soldiers. I wonder what Kore is going to do since Q gave her the cure to get away from Adam and what the fall out will be.And what plot Q wants in motion besides Agnes & Adam want to stop t he Europa mission. I can't wait to see how the last shows wrap up season 2 I give this show a 9.
 
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IIRC, O'Brien said about an alternate timeline that it was not the mid-21st century he remembered, and that earth had some rough patches, but never that rough. Which implies he didn't think WW III was a big deal.

Plus, in 2063 the world is living in a post-nuclear apocalypse (according to FC).
 
Rios's storyline has just gotten dumb and pointless. I like how it started out but still don't get why he would bring the doctor and her son onto his ship. It doesn't even connect with the main storyline and feels like a waste.

I like how they acknowledged Raffi manipulating people. It was nice to see Elnor back in a flashback scene.

My favorite parts of this episode was the stuff with Jurrati, Picard, Guinan, Soong and Q. John De Lancie is doing a great job.
 
And what the hell are you going on about gum?
You like filler, so I thought you'd like some guar gum. Or maybe Xanthan gum is more your thing? ;)

I'm glad you liked the episode. I wish I had a higher opinion of it myself because I really want to enjoy it. It wasn't bad but also definitely not good.

But I'm honestly glad you're finding more enjoyment in it than I am. :beer:
 
Plus, in 2063 the world is living in a post-nuclear apocalypse (according to FC).

And TNG. As late as 2079 the Postatomic Horror had caused some corners of the planet to revert to medieval barbarism, and that was a full 16 years after First Contact.
 
It's a nice idea, but it sorta ignores WWIII.
Oh, that little thing? Getting into the nitpicky details now! :lol:

Yeah, the fact that WW3 is coming soon kind of puts a damper on everything that is happening. It almost doesn't matter what happens because WW3 is a big reset.
 
The "mystery box" style of the show still annoys me when I think about it. Instead of dragging out what was going on with Q for the whole season, having Q tell Picard in episode 2 that he was dying and was giving him/humanity one last trial would have worked better for me than him just speaking in riddles to Picard.
Clearly the entire season could've easily been told in four parts. Basically, the first two episodes and the last two. Any of the (rare) necessary details that were in other episodes could've easily been added to those four.
 
Ok this may have already been discussed but seeing as it’s a long thread I’ll just ask.

Q’s conversation with Guinean. I’ve seen people talk about how it shows Q making these changes to somehow stop his death but my read on it was more him starting to worry what was happening when he realised he wasn’t going to move onto something else after death and almost trying to do one good thing before he goes, with that good thing being a ridiculously convoluted way to get Picard to face his demons. I need to rewatch and find the quote that made me think that but what was everyone else’s read on that scene and Q’s reasoning for all of this?
 
Personally, I think Trek should go back to self contained stories each episode.
I've said this before but I'll say it again. They should go with multiple 3 parters. This lets them build up some serialization and increased depth of storytelling. Basically what ENT did in its final season. This approach doesn't force all their eggs into one basket for the big reveal at the end. Of course, they could have character arcs that last the entire season and longer. Just not the story arcs.

I also think the ST writers just are not up for a fully serialized season long story. We've seen that in both Discovery and Picard lately. I'm glad SNW is not going with serialization.

And I say that as some who LOVES serialized stories. That's my preferred style . . . when they're done well. But ST isn't doing them well and I'd rather get less serialization and (hopefully) better stories.

And I definitely agree that DS9 did serialization the best for Trek!
 
That really took me out of the story.

A federal employee fired that quickly? Too fantastic to be believed. :whistle:

This was probably one out of many run-ins Agent Wells had with his supervisor for the same thing.

I worked at a government owned electric utility and we had a "positive discipline" procedure that allowed management to get rid of the non-management employees they didn't like. First offense is a documented sit down with your manager, second time is decision making leave for a day, the third time you got time off without pay, fourth time and you were gone.

"The beatings will continue, until morale improves."
 
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